Dear all, My lyrics problem has now righted itself - and I have no idea why it just started working again!
HOWEVER for the record, I want to express my thanks to Michael Johnson, VP Professional Notation at MakeMusic, who leapt straight onto the case from what he saw on this list and has spent quite a while trying to help me get to the bottom of the problem. Michael -----Original Message----- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Withers Sent: 09 February 2017 19:01 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 25: Lyrics window problem Great idea. Just tried it and it makes no difference unfortunately. Michael -----Original Message----- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: 09 February 2017 17:06 To: finale Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 25: Lyrics window problem Okay. Another idea I had is to trash your preferences. Sometimes this helps with weird behavior, especially if it was working for a while before the problems started. On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Michael Withers < mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Many thanks for the offer but it seems to be a general thing. I have > exactly the same behaviour if I start a completely new test file. > Still it would do no harm to check. I'll send you something later on today. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On > Behalf Of Robert Patterson > Sent: 09 February 2017 15:20 > To: finale > Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 25: Lyrics window problem > > If you want to send me a copy of the problem file privately, I'll be > glad to see what I can see about it. > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Michael Withers < > mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk> wrote: > > > Thanks Robert. I'll double check the 'Set current lyric' settings > > but I think it's unlikely to be the cause as I have the same problem > > on > > v25 AND on 2014 and 2014.5. > > > > I've already tried all the usual rebooting PC and restarting Finale > > tricks to no avail. > > > > Thanks anyway > > > > Michael > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On > > Behalf Of Robert Patterson > > Sent: 09 February 2017 13:50 > > To: finale > > Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 25: Lyrics window problem > > > > I've seen this problem, or similar, in Fin 25. Whatever causes the > > lyrics disappear seems random, but usually I can restore them with > > Undo, provided I go back far enough. You might also try restarting > > Finale or even the computer. (I sometimes have to restart the > > computer for playback issues.) > > > > But your problem sounds like a simpler issue. Are you certain that > > "Set Current Lyric" is set to the same verse/chorus/section number > > as you are expecting? There is some strange behavior around this > > feature and it is worth checking. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:40 AM, Michael Withers < > > mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > Hi John and Christopher, > > > > > > Thanks for the link to the lyric hyphenator page. It's a > > > marvellous resource and worth sharing more widely. > > > > > > Another great hyphenator is https://www.ushuaia.pl/hyphen/?ln=en. > > > This one works best with single words or shorter texts but has the > > > advantage of allowing hyphenation in many different languages. > > > > > > However, marvellous as they are, they are a perfect example of my > > problem: > > > I can't use them because I can't copy/paste into the lyrics tool > > > edit window!! > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Michael Withers > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On > > > Behalf Of John Roberts > > > Sent: 09 February 2017 03:14 > > > To: finale@shsu.edu > > > Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 25: Lyrics window problem > > > > > > You beat me to it, Christopher! I found this page not too long > > > ago, and use it all the time. Very useful. > > > JR > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Christopher Smith < > > > christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > > > I rarely get problems like this, though I’ve heard of them. > > > > Often, > > > hitting Undo restores the lyrics when they disappear, I’ve been told. > > > > > > > > My contribution is to provide you with this website, which > > > > offers > > > automatic hyphenation in English. Copy your lyrics into this > > > window, hit the Hyphenate button, then copy them back out and > > > paste them into the Finale lyrics window. You still have to check them > > > (“Bless-ed” > > > instead of “blessed”, for example) but it saves a ton of work. > > > > > > > > http://juiciobrennan.com/hyphenator/ > > > > > > > > Christopher > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed Feb 8, at WednesdayFeb 8 3:47 PM, Michael Withers < > > > mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Dear all, > > > >> > > > >> I'm hoping the corporate wisdom of this illustrious list can > > > >> help with this problem, or at least point me in the right > > > >> direction > > > >> > > > >> Everything has been going OK with Finale 25 since I upgraded. > > > >> > > > >> Yesterday I was successfully entering lyrics in my usual way > > > >> (couple of glitches but I put that down to inaccurate fingers > > > >> or me not being > > > careful). > > > >> My usual way of working is to copy/paste lyrics into the Lyrics > > > >> Window, insert the necessary hyphenation and then click-assign > > > >> the lyrics to the score. > > > >> > > > >> Today, the Lyrics Window is behaving very strangely. If I > > > >> copy/paste lyrics into the Lyrics Window and click the 'Click > > > >> assign' button the lyrics I have pasted disappear. Vanished! > > > >> > > > >> If I put the lyrics in by using type-in-score then the lyrics > > > >> DO appear in the Lyrics edit window but don't seem to retain > > > >> their connection to the score, i.e. if I then make a change in > > > >> the lyrics using the edit window, the changes ARE NOT reflected > > > >> in the > score. > > > >> > > > >> I checked the other versions of Finale that I keep installed > > > >> for emergencies > > > >> (2014 and 2014.5) and they exhibit exactly the same errors. > > > >> > > > >> So I tried the version of 2014 that I keep on a laptop for > > > >> emergencies - and that works just fine, exactly as expected. > > > >> > > > >> I guess this means the problem is with my main PC or with > > > >> something in some software or other that has updated itself > > > >> recently. Yes, I've already tried rebooting the PC (many > > > >> times!) and deleting the preferences and starting again. > > > >> > > > >> Has anyone else experienced this problem or can suggest where I > > > >> could look to find the cause? > > > >> > > > >> I am on Windows 10 with an i5 processor and NVIDIA GeForce > > > >> graphics card > > > >> > > > >> The setup has been working fine until today and I have been > > > >> working with Finale since 1998!! > > > >> > > > >> Any pointers much appreciated > > > >> > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> > > > >> Michael Withers > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Finale mailing list > > > >> Finale@shsu.edu > > > >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > >> > > > >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Finale mailing list > > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Finale mailing list > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Finale mailing list > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu