Thanks for the reply!

> On the default setup, closing that window shuts X down.  The name of
> that xterm is set to be "login" via a flag.  Check out
> /usr/X11R6/etc/xinit/xinitrc, which sets that behavior.


> > Also, when loading apps, they don't appear right away, i need to click
> > the xdarwin xterm window before the app appears. Is this standard?
> > (The app is appearing on a non-mirrored external monitor vis dvi (macbook)).
> >
> That's a function of the window manager.  It sounds like you're using
> the default (twm) window manager.  In other window managers the
> application windows open automatically.

I've copied xinitrc to $HOME/.xinitrc and modified it slightly:

---
# start some nice programs

#twm &
#xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
#xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
#xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
#exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login

. /sw/bin/init.sh
xterm &
exec enlightenment
----

I'm just installing another wm now - enlightenment. which other window
managers can i use?  I just want to run a couple of xapps as quickly
as possible, with the minimum fuss, so I can use the app. Do you have
any recommendations?

I see some references to a quartz-wm manager - is this apple's wm? I
guess this only works for apple's X11 app?

Also, are there any disadvantages to running standard terminal
commands via xterm? Will there be any noticable speed difference? Or
can I just load xdarwin with xterm and use the xterm as if it were
Terminal.app?

Thanks again!

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