On 11/8/05, Neil Tiffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:19 AM -0800 11/8/05, Trevor Harmon wrote: > >On Nov 8, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Brendan Cully wrote: > > > >>Let me be honest: I have an axe to grind, since I've got a number of > >>my own packages languishing in the submission queue for months. I'm > >>grateful for the feedback I've gotten, and eg dmacks has definitely > >>improved the quality of my packages. But lbdb probably doesn't need > >>another six month's of inspection... > > > >I'm in the same situation. A number of my packages are still > >Undergoing Validation. And likewise, I want to give a big public > >thank-you to Daniel Macks, since he appears to be one of the few > >(only?) developers who has been validating and committing the > >packages I put in the tracker. > > > >So here's my proposal for solving this problem: Give more people CVS > >commit access. If you and I were allowed to help out with checking > >in new and updated packages, then that's a good chunk that could be > >removed from the tracker right there. Not only would we be able to > >remove our own packages, but we'd also be able to help validate and > >commit others, too. Now, I'm not as experienced with this as core > >developers like Daniel, but I've learned a lot from him lately, and > >I do guarantee that if I end up breaking something -- and this is > >the only reason why CVS commit access is restricted, right? -- then > >I'll be responsive and get it fixed quickly. > > > >Perhaps we need to review the process of how people are granted > >commit access. On the other hand, is there even a process? I'm not > >sure what criteria a developer must meet before getting access. I > >seem to remember reading something about being the maintainer of > >some minimum number of packages, but I can't find any mention of > >this on the Fink website now. > > I agree, I had my first package approved and put in cvs on Monday, > thanks to Max Horn. It sat in the tracker for essentially 3 months > and until I emailed Max (who was picked at random). I have two > others waiting, one (openssl) is one that the maintainer wants to > move to someone else. The other is GNU Enterprise. I also would like > to take over one other project (indent). Max was going to approve > GNU Enterprise but he did not have the time to work on some > dependency problems and has abandoned me back to the list. > > I am a core team member of GNU Enterprise with commit access to cvs > for some 5 or 6 years. I am also a core developer of another > sourceforge project (SlashMUD) and have been writing unix and mac > software for many many years and do not understand the process for > cvs access. > > This not a complaint against the fink staff, but rather a problem > with the process and my frustration at not being able to help. > > Neil > GNU Enterprise > http://www.gnuenterprise.org/ > (Resume available on request) > > >
The primary question isn't "Do you know how to commit to CVS?" (though that's definitely an asset!), but rather "Do you know enough about Fink and how it works so that the packages you commit will generally be reliable?" Speaking for myself, I can now try to expedite some packages out of the tracker. Anybody reading this thread who's got a package sitting around, please email me (better yet, fink-devel) the tracker ID number. If the package looks OK to me I'll commit it to my experimental tree--that way anybody who reads -commits can see the initial commit of the .info file and thereby engage in a relatively easy last round of quality control. -- Alexander K. Hansen Fink Documenter [Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment http://psfcwww2.psfc.mit.edu/ldx/ ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
