In article <08084F03C8A2D111A56B00104B1F6E3C54056B@FALCON>,
Jesus Gonzalez  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On one other note, regarding the stability of NT.  It was said that the
>hardware makes all the difference.  Again, a very true statement.

That's not my experience.

On the one hand, PC hardware is all over the place, yes. We've had Dell
systems I wouldn't wish on a dog, and we've got hand-built clones with
name-brand parts that have had much better reliability.

On the other, you can get NT to stay up more reliably by throwing hardware
at it. Not name brand hardware, just lots of hardware. Compared to UNIX
on the same boxes (I'm not comparing NT to HPs and Suns, but to FreeBSD
and SCO on PC hardware), it is much much more hungry. I had a 486 with 8M
under FreeBSD running three thousand-member mailing lists, two site
mirrors, and my primary DNS server at a colo site. You couldn't even boot
NT on that box, and you wouldn't want to run the mailing list software
and the webservers on the same NT server anyway... even Microsoft recommends
dedicating a server or two for each separate role.

My "rules for keeping an NT server stable", which reads like a parody but
except for the last rule is depressingly serious, is at:

        http://www.taronga.com/~peter/io/nt.html

> Sure
>HP-UX seems stable, as well it should running on a $50k HP-9000 box.

But so does FreeBSD on a $200 486 box built mostly out of throwaway parts.

>I
>always find it amusing that people seem to think it's OK to run NT server on
>a home-built PC using generic parts.

It's proven OK to run FreeBSD on a home-built PC using generic parts.

> We have nothing but Dell servers and
>our uptime is excellent.  Again, only needing to reboot when applying
>service packs or making a network configuration change.

Whereas I don't need to reboot for any of that.

> We also make it a
>point to reboot the servers once every 2-3 months, just to clear the memory
>cache.

And I had a 400 day uptime at one point, the only reason my box went down
was for power failures.

> But we've never experienced any blue screens or instability from our
>NT servers.

If you coddle them enough, you won't. But that doesn't make them ready for
duty as firewalls.

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