At 08:48 AM 8/31/00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Symantec acquiring Axent Technologies should not change the support
>structure that Axent/Raptor has built over the years. in essence compared
>to Raptor, Checkpoint is the only firewall company that has not been
>acquired in the last few years.
>Symantec not only bought Axent Technologies but also acquired their
>engineers. Especially with the Symantec's L-3 acquisition a while back,
>they now have quality engineers from 3 companies instead of one.
>
>I am predicting that NetProwler 3.5 IDS product will be eventually merge
>in the Symantec Norton Internet Security 2000 product to go head to head
>with some other unmentioned vendor in the personal Firewall/IDS space, and
>then combine Raptor Firewall/NetProwler/ITA/ESM to go head to head against
>Checkpoint/RealSecure with a Corporate Firewall/IDS product.
>
>So this is a blessing for ICSA, since they will again collect more money
>from Firewall vendors since they have to test all over again, because the
>products have now been combined together. Expect lots of bugs and
>integration issues to crop up as the first/beta copies become available in
>the next few months and in about a year from now, the integrated products
>will be much better or worse, depending on your view about integrated
>products. A year from now, is it a good firewall or a good ids or a
>mediocre both.
>
>This also means any product knowledge that good infosec people have
>already accumulated about products will have to be totally flushed and
>re-acquired, which then allows SANS/GIAC, USENIX to revamp their material
>to address all the new changes, features, bugs, etc.
>
>Hope this makes sense.
>
>/m
>
>
>At 08:05 AM 8/31/00 -0400, Crumrine, Gary L wrote:
>>It is real easy to make statements like this without having factual data to
>>back it up. That amounts to a cheap shot. I think time will tell if there
>>are going to be any major changes. In my daily operations, I have had some
>>pretty close relations with their technical staff, along with their vendors.
>>I do not get a sense of impending doom that you suggest. Also, to compare
>>this action to what happened with another company is totally unfair as well.
>>I agree with one of the other person's answers.... that this was a money
>>deal.. nothing more, and I think that it helps both companies strengthen
>>their financial pictures. Think about it, instant market share, non
>>competing product lines, both are industry leaders... come on, it make
>>perfect business sense. I can see nothing but a stronger company emerging
>>from this. In addition, with AXENT's soon to be released entry into the
>>appliance market, they look even better than before. It made sense to buy
>>now, before the big release rather than having to pay more for it later.
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Carric Dooley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:18 PM
>> > To: Ricky Gomez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: Raptor Firewall
>> >
>> > It's not "Raptor's" firewall. It was Axent Raptor, but they sold out to
>> > (of all people) Symantec. I would be really careful choosing this as my
>> > enterprise FW solution. You may want to hold off, or find another
>> > solution altogether. =)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Ricky Gomez <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:05 PM
>> > Subject: Raptor Firewall
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone ever used Raptor's firewall software ? Any advice on it,
>> > ADV, DISADV, I'm looking into using it.
>> >
>> > Ricky Gomez
>> > Information Technology Department
>> >
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