This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 02:41 PM 2/19/00 -0600, you wrote:
This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm confused here and have to ask.  Is everyone in agreement exactly what a
Norwegian Fjord is?

I can't answer for everyone but here is what they are supposed to be:

http://www.nfhr.com/BREEDSTA.html

 Given, I'm new to Fjords,
only having Amber since September, knowing nothing about Fjords except my
husbands family being from Minnesota and family in Norway, I thought "a Fjord
from Norway?, what are they?

The Norwegian Fjord originated in Norway as far as we know according to history. Today they can come from many different countries. Most of them can still be traced by pedigree back to Norway though.

and after seeing pictures, wanting one."  It was by
pure accident and luck that Amber and I are together and I happen to think she's the perfect "Fjord". Why? She's not too heavy, not too light, carries herself
upright in front, like I would want a dressage horse to do.

She sounds like she would fit the standard quite well then.

Thats what I intend
to do with her.  She can drive and I hope to do CDE's with her.  When I watch
her move, I look at her like I do my daughters TB, my husbands QH and my soon to
be retired Arab.  I want horses that can do dressage.  Is there anything wrong
with that.

Not that I know of. There are more & more Fjords doing Dressage now. The NFHR sponsors the USDF "All Breeds Awards" program too. For more information on that you need to contact the USDF.

I don't care if she can't pull a dozen logs, thats not what I do.

Not everyone does. I would be willing to bet that she could skid a log just fine though if you wanted to do it. By the way the Evaluation Draft tests are not designed to see how much a horse can pull. They only skid a single 8 ft long log through some traffic cones. It is more to see how the horse pays attention to the handler & handles itself in the different situations.

And if I want to and can,  which by what I've heard on this list may be very
difficult, breed her to another Fjord which will compliment what I see in her
and hopefully "fix" what isn't ideal, I don't see what the problem is. How can
you hope to expose this breed to all possibilities of riding/driving if you're
so evasive to breeding.  I agree, responsible breeeding,  but not impossible.

Not knowing who you have been talking to I would be quite surprised if you can't find a good quality stallion to breed your mare to. I received 142 stallion breeding reports for 1999. So that means that there are 142 fjord stallions out there to bred to. I would think that one of them is the right one.

How can this breed hope to be affordable if there are so few breeding stallions?

I just looked. There are 328 NFHR registered stallions. There are more that are not NFHR registered. Of this 142 were actively breeding in 1999. Some of them are not old enough yet & some of them are probably to old. I don't know what the reason is for the others. I am sure at least some of them are actually geldings that have not been reported to me yet.

Who are these evaluations for?

Anyone interested in Fjord Horses.

The breeding farms? The potential buyers?

Yes & Yes

I'm not a breeder, what I get, I keep.  How many Fjords are there in Texas?

16

I'm moving to Missouri this year. How many are there? a handful?

17 - I think that is at least 2 hands full.  ;-)

I believe in responsible breeding but if so much emphasis is put on these
evaluations, how can the small breeder keep up with the breeders that have
access to these evaluations. I'm not rich, I can't travel to Europe just to go
to an evaluation done by the Dutch, much less go to one of only a few places
here in the states.  If I don't do this, am I penalized because this will not
show up on my papers. If my Fjord wasn't evaluated and "pass" does that mean I
have a low quality Fjord?

No I don't think so.  That is exactly why the system is voluntary.

I don't understand the emphasis put on these
evaluations. I'm sorry for my ignorance, I know most of you have had Fjords in your lifes for a long time and have your ideal Fjord in mind. I'd just like to
know what that is!

That is different things to different people. What is ideal to a person doing farm work with their hose is most likely not going to be the ideal horse for you. On the other hand your ideal horse isn't going to be the ideal Fjord for them either. The breed standard was specifically written to NOT exclude either of these "Ideal Fjords" though. There IS a market for all of the "Types" Please do go & read the breed standard again or for the first time if you haven't read it yet.

http://www.nfhr.com/BREEDSTA.html

Thanks. Debby in TX
p.s. I'd emailed a list member several months ago inquiring about a stallion for
my Amber.  I was referred to someone else who proceeded to question me about
Amber and "her breeding", saying wouldn't I be happier to just buy a youngster
and not worry about the breeding process.

Well maybe they had a horse for sale??

I was questioned about her ancestry,
her lineage, which I did not give.  I understand some of that questioning, you
want to insure the stallion is not being bred to a mare that should not be
bred.

Any responsible stallion should ask your mares ancestry. Inbreeding is against the rules. If your mare happened to have the same or close parentage then that stallion owner shouldn't bred your mare. The resulting foal would not be registerable.

Mike

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