I 100% agree. If the content looks really appealing and comes with a 
recommendation then I think people will be happy to install it. But it is 
something to bare in mind when discussing options with a client.

> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:20:52 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] current consensus of available Flash 3D engines?
> From: mei...@gmail.com
> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> 
> from the website:
> Unity supports three scripting languages: JavaScript, C#, and a dialect of
> Python called Boo.
> I'm sure more than 1% has it installed by now, I've seen more unity content
> than silverlight content and unity is a bit older and I've read silverlight
> is at about 60% in some countries, so my guess is that Unity may be around
> the same numbers.
> 
> Anway.. I think those stats shouldn't be too important, I believe if the app
> appeals enough(people see screenshots, vids of it), installation of unity
> (which is the most painless plugin installation in my view) follows.
> 
> @Karl: No, Unity cannot be ported to Flash.. That would've made a good
> april's fools joke tho ;). ps. the Unity tutorials are pretty good on their
> website, just download the free version and dig in :).
> 
> cheers,
> Meinte
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM, David Hunter <davehunte...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > I actually went to a unity meetup and demo the other week to check it out.
> > Very impressive, the quality is excellent and you can deliver across many
> > platforms easily (browser, desktop app, wii, iPhone). The problem with the
> > browser is less than 1% have the plugin installed compared to 98% for flash.
> > I think you can use a few different languages in it, pretty sure that
> > includes JavaScript. Check their website as there is plenty of info on
> > there.
> >
> > > From: k...@designdrumm.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] current consensus of available Flash 3D
> > engines?
> > > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:59:38 -0500
> > > To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > Has anyone used "Unity 3D"?
> > > Does anyone know if it can port to Flash?
> > > I just received a copy and was curious.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Meinte van't Kruis wrote:
> > >
> > > don't forget Away3DLite(using in-build flash '3D' ) :
> > >
> > > http://away3d.com/away3d-lite-v1-0-fastest-and-smallest-3d-engine-in-
> > > flash
> > >
> > > <http://away3d.com/away3d-lite-v1-0-fastest-and-smallest-3d-engine-in-
> > > flash>which
> > > doesnt have all the futures of 'full' 3d engines like Away3D or
> > > Papervision,
> > > but
> > > can be appropriate on some 3d web projects where you dont really need
> > > a full
> > > feature set.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:07 PM, allandt bik-elliott
> > > (thefieldcomic.com) <
> > > alla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > awesome answer - thanks a lot guys
> > > >
> > > > a
> > > >
> > > > On 9 April 2010 16:07, Merrill, Jason <jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Second that for Papervision - though you should know Matt and I
> > > >> are on
> > > >> the same team - so we've discussed Papervision a lot together.  He's
> > > >> right in his assessment.  If I did decide to drop PV3D, I'd probably
> > > >> switch to Away3D.  To guess based on what I have read, and only
> > > >> what I
> > > >> have rolling around in my head as a general "feel" and no data to
> > > >> back
> > > >> this up (and I have only actually used Papervision), I would "guess
> > > >> rank" them like this:
> > > >>
> > > >> Robustness of features and possibilities (best being #1):
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Papervision3D
> > > >> 2. Away3D
> > > >> 3. Sandy3D
> > > >> 4. Five3D (vector based - much smaller engine than the others, but
> > > >> nice
> > > >> small footprint)
> > > >>
> > > >>> From a performance perspective, my general feel/guess (best being
> > > >>> #1):
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Away3D/Five3D
> > > >> 2. Papervision3D/Sandy3D
> > > >>
> > > >>> From an overall footprint size (lowest being #1):
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Five3D
> > > >> 2. Away3D/ Sandy3D(?)/Papervision3D
> > > >>
> > > >>> From the perspective of overall documentation and support and
> > > >>> size of
> > > >> user community, I would rank them (best being #1):
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Papervision3D
> > > >> 2. Away3D/Sandy3D
> > > >> 3. Five3D
> > > >>
> > > >> So overall, for general project needs (depending on what you are
> > > >> doing),
> > > >> I would rank them as (best being #1):
> > > >> 1. Papervision3D
> > > >> 2. Away3D
> > > >> 3. Sandy3D/Five3D
> > > >>
> > > >> Athough from what I understand, Away3D is a really nice engine and
> > > >> worth
> > > >> looking into as well.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Jason Merrill
> > > >>
> > > >> Bank of  America  Global Learning
> > > >> Learning & Performance Solutions
> > > >>
> > > >> Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community  and visit our
> > > >> Instructional Technology Design Blog
> > > >> (note: these are for Bank of America employees only)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> > > >> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > >> Perkins
> > > >> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 8:14 AM
> > > >> To: Flash Coders List
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] current consensus of available Flash 3D
> > > >> engines?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I've used Papervision. It's not too hard to use once you get over the
> > > >> learning curve. It's very well documented - why I choose to use it
> > > >> over
> > > >> Away. There are books on Papervision and not any of the other
> > > >> ones, and
> > > >> I learn best with a paper book beside me.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 4/9/2010 5:25 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote:
> > > >>> hey guys
> > > >>>
> > > >>> i'm currently researching 3d engines for a project that i might be
> > > >> working
> > > >>> and i was wondering which, if any, of the 3d engines that people
> > > >>> have
> > > >> used
> > > >>> and which they value the most
> > > >>>
> > > >>> papervision, sandy and away 3d seem to be the most prominent choices
> > > >> and i'm
> > > >>> leaning towards away 3d but i don't have enough information to
> > > >>> really
> > > >> make
> > > >>> an informed choice
> > > >>>
> > > >>> love to hear from you
> > > >>>
> > > >>> a
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