Where does it say that Apple is dropping support for plugins like Flash on Mac OSX?
I can't see that happening. I can't even imagine how they'd do it if they wanted to. Guy On 03/05/2010, at 10:00 AM, Laurence wrote: > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton <g...@...> wrote: > > > > Jeez...it's *three* devices, and you *do* have a choice... > > It's gonna be a hell of a lot more than just 3 portable devices, when Jobs > removes Flash from OSX. That's every Mac in the world. There are a LOT of > Macs out there... > > The whole reason I chose to learn Flex is that it (at the time) ran on every > available platform. It was THE cross-platform language to learn. > > > > > You're annoyed because you're being shut out of a market you want to be in, > > but your arguments as to why you should be allowed into that market are > > specious. > > My arguments are not specious -- I *was* a part of that market at one time. > I'm being shut out of a market through NO FAULT OF MY OWN. Every Apple > product in the world will soon have zero support for Flash -- that's NOT what > I signed up for when I learned Flex. The MAIN REASON I learned Flex was for > its cross-platform capabilites. I never had to worry about what system my > programs were running on. Now Apple is gone from that equation -- ergo 25% of > my customers just disappeared, unless I can get them all to buy PCs. Thanks, > Steve! > > > > > If you buy an iPod/Pad/Phone, you buy it as is, knowing what it can and > > can't do. It can't do Flash. If you don't like that, don't buy the device, > > it's really very simple. If you want to hack it to make it capable of > > running Flash, then sure, go ahead, no-one is going to sue you. You might > > not be able to claim on your warranty or update the OS once you do that > > but, yes, it's your choice if you want to go that way. Most people don't > > because most people can actually live without Flash, believe it or not. > > I agree with you here -- knowing in advance that it doesn't run Flash is a > good thing, and people can then make a choice accordingly. It just really > angers me if I were to own a device and some entity somewhere tells me I > cannot run my own software on it. I would be ranting against MS or Linux just > as angrily, if they were to suddenly come out and say I couldn't run a > particular piece of software just because they "don't like it anymore." (And, > yes I read that article where MS says that HTML5 is the 'future of the > internet.' They said nothing about removing Flash support from Microsoft > Windows in that article. Steve Jobs IS going to remove Flash from all Apple > products everywhere -- THAT'S my problem with this!) > > > > > If you want to develop for the iP*, then learn objective C or use > > HTML5/Javascript. If you don't then don't. Again, it's a simple choice you > > can make. > > It's NOT a simple choice -- learning a whole other programming language is > not a simple task. Before old Steve-o came out against Flash, I could write > one program that would work on Windows, Linux, and Mac. Now Mac is gone from > that equation -- thanks to some facist prick who thinks he knows everything > that everyone else should do. > > > Technologies change, sometimes their fortunes rise and sometimes they fall. > > Flash has been the undisputed winner in the RIA wars up till now. Jobs is > > betting the future of the iP* platform on HTML5. Maybe he's wrong about it, > > but maybe he isn't. Time will tell. > > Yes, technologies do change -- but it should be the free market that > determines which technologies survive and which don't, not some ivory-tower > egghead who determines by fiat what's best for everyone. THAT'S why I called > Steve Jobs a bastard. Perhaps I should've said elitist bastard to make it > clearer. > > I truly DESPISE it when ONE person has the power to mess up things in my > life. If everyone decided ON THEIR OWN to stop using Adobe Flash, that would > be a completely different story -- the majority would have spoken, and I > could more easily accept the outcome. But Jobs is simply deciding that he > knows best, and we're going to all follow him because he's so damn smart. > THAT is not the free market! > >