> Can anyone provide any real world examples?
Sure. I want to extend TreeItemRender, it's a 500 hundred line class so I'd rather not rewrite it. The only available text presentation object in the class is a UITextField which is instantiated in the createChildren method. I want to replace it a VBOX then call grandparent.createChildren(). If I call super.createChildren() then I have a conflict. I don't know what the grandparent would do with that call, I don't think I should have to. It would just be a whole lot more efficient if you could override a method and not loss access to it place in the scheme of things. tonio