Never trust Microsoft products and projects. They bring products and destroy those products themselves because of their marketing strategy. They never succeeded to run a product more than few years except Window OS and MS Office.
If you put some efforts in learning a technology than you would never want to loss. What happend to FrontPage? What happened to ASP ? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, slangeberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you ever watch the developer videos on Channel 9, you'll see that many MS > devs have macbooks (or whatever they're called) sitting on their desks! > > -Scott > > On 4/29/07, dorkie dork from dorktown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > the problem with microsoft is they live in a bubble. they live in their > > own little world where only windows exists. well, at the college i visit > > half the people have macs. i am in a college coffee / study shop with about > > 150 people and half have macs. this all changed when the mac books came out > > last year. long time windows users switched. my roomate uses a mac and loves > > it. not everyone uses windows. > > > > i dont' trust their cross compatible promises either. what if they do make > > version on mac. anyone remember ie on mac? they need to prove they have > > changed the way they do things (and think) before i would ever trust them. > > > > since i'm ranting, it seems, that users opinions don't matter. all they > > need to do is listen to their users and i do not get that from them. vista > > is an example of them living in a bubble. so as the web changes i do not > > think silverlight will progress when they do not listen to the users. > > > > > > > > On 4/29/07, simonjpalmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Does C# kill Java? > > > Does IE kill Firefox? > > > Does SQLServer kill Oracle? > > > Does Windows kill UNIX? > > > Will Silverlight kill Flex? > > > > > > From my 20 odd years of software development, during which time the > > > Microsoft hegemony has been at its apogee, none of the above are true. > > > In fact if you want a really scalable enterprise platform you would > > > choose the right hand side of the list above rather than the left. > > > > > > Where Microsoft win hands down is in Office Applications and desktop > > > operating systems. Excel is quite possibly the best piece of desktop > > > software ever written (Word being the worst) and long may it reign as > > > such. Windows is crap, but it's more than good enough for your > > > average user and most Microsoft desktop products are actually pretty > > > good (c'mon, be generous). > > > > > > I regret deeply that the rest of the world doesn't have a house full > > > of beautiful, stable, simple Macs like I do, but the reality is that > > > they don't as Jason points out. Instead the three or four computers > > > the normal person interacts with in their daily lives are almost > > > exclusively running Windows (even the ATM machines and tills at the > > > supermarket). Not a pleasant truth, but a truth nonetheless. If you > > > are looking for broad adoption and commercial success as a software > > > company you start with Windows. > > > > > > The wonderful reality, however, is that the software industry, like > > > all others in the history of human endeavour, thrives on competition > > > and there is space for more than one company/product/offering to > > > survive. Adobe are not going to be Microsoft. THANK GOD! They have > > > and in my opinion will always have, a distinct and separate offering. > > > If they can't retain that differentiation then they don't deserve to > > > remain in business and the market will take care of them. > > > > > > So this is a bit of a silly thread as far as I am concerned. The > > > answer for me is clearly No for all the same reasons that Microsoft > > > haven't killed any of the other things on the list at the top. They > > > might try, but I think they should be more worried about Google and > > > web based desktop software than Adobe and the flash player. > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, Bjorn > > > Schultheiss > > > <bjorn.schultheiss@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Jason, > > > > > > > > Even if 90% of internet's users are running Windows, how many > > > > millions aren't.. > > > > If you can deploy applications that is guaranteed to only be used by > > > > Windows users, well good luck to you. > > > > > > > > Here we target creatives in the advertising industry and I don't have > > > > that luxury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Bjorn Schultheiss > > > > Senior Developer > > > >  > > > > Personalised Communication Power > > > > > > > > Level 2, 31 Coventry St. > > > > South Melbourne 3205, > > > > VIC Australia > > > > > > > > T: +61 3 9674 7400 > > > > F: +61 3 9645 9160 > > > > W: http://www.qdc.net.au > > > > > > > > ((------------This transmission is confidential and intended solely > > > > for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. It may > > > > contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the > > > > intended recipient, you should not copy, distribute or take any > > > > action in reliance on it. If you believe you received this > > > > transmission in error, please notify the sender.---------------)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One person wrote: > > > > > Everybody uses Windows, almost all the workstations are windows. > > > Macs > > > > > have IE working OK. > > > > > > > > Another responded: > > > > >>Think again. > > > > "Think again?" What kind of an argument is that? People keep > > > > brining up certain technlogies not working on Mac OS or Linux as a > > > > bad thing. Personally, I've never bought into the, "that technology > > > > does not support obscure browser "X" or non-Windows operating system > > > > "Y" and therefore is doomed to fail" argument. As much as I wish it > > > > were not true, Microsoft is one example of a company who has time and > > > > again developed solutions for Windows only and been quite successful > > > > at it. Not supporting Mac or Linux WILL hurt you a little, but it's > > > > still a Windows world (unfortunately) and thus there is a huge market > > > > there to tap. The world is changing, sure, but very very slowly in > > > > this regard. > > > > > > > > At the same time, I think Silverlight is coming out a little too late > > > > - the RIA runtime has already left the barn IMO. > > > > > > > > Jason Merrill > > > > Bank of America > > > > GT&O Learning & Leadership Development > > > > eTools & Multimedia Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > : : ) Scott >
