e,    I responded to the person who has been on msft platform for over 20
years - assuming that he has a lot of baggage he needs to take. I would be
very surprised to find out if Photoshop or Illustrator were in the toolset.
More likely we are dealing with software professional that needs very fast
and reliable environment that includes heavy weight Java and database
components.
     I would really like to see running LCDS Enterprise on the 1GB of RAM
not to mention FlexBuilder/J2EE Server/EnterpriseDB. For that 2.5GB I would
consider an entry point. Besides, assuming 20 years of experience,
requirements for mobility are lower. The requirements for comfort and
familiarity while maintaining productivity are higher. External monitor and
decent keyboard / mouse are very high on the specs list - that is why I
created "top 10".

As far as memory/HD goes - I am used to large 7.2K RPM drives and high
memory settings in eclipse and DB - that really affects performance. Apple
does not give "second bay" option found in Thinkpads - previous leader in
notebook space - for fast drives/second battery. Given the timing I would
probably wait a week till new models are announced.

After 20 years a lot of strange thing become intuitive and vice versa.
Please note that I do recommend MBP - and do not recommend ThinkPad or
HP/Compaq or Dell at this point as even top of the line models are bad.
However, underestimating enterprise drive for virtualization would be a
mistake when purchasing machine that suppose to last 2 years.

Sincerely,
Anatole Tartakovsky
Farata Systems

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Oh please, mac is so intuitive. And the comments about VMachines is
> bogus. VMWare fusion runs windows xp and vista wicked fast on vmware fusion.
> so thats junk. i have 1 gig of ram on a macbook from last summer. not a pro.
> i use photoshop, flex, illustrator blah blah blah no memory issues. 2 gigs,
> perfect. 3 SWEET. Terminal? You wont need terminal unless you want to make
> some bigggg changes.Apple pricing is not a scam, consider the time spent in
> not worrying or paying for or spending time on spyware/virii. macbook air
> can read disc drives of pc or mac computers.
>
> get a macbook pro.
>
> i didnt see anything about you doing 3d rendering. otherwise .... get it.
>
> -e
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky wrote:
>
> Macbook Pro is better built machine then any Windows one I can find. The
> same goes for their Mac Pro. However, it takes time and patience to live
> with it.
> Here are my "first 10" things to look into while migrating:
> 1. You most likely will need Fusion/parallel for legacy/migration path.
> Macbook is limited to 3GB RAM, so VMs have limited appeal. I spend 80% of
> the time on the Workstation (with tons of RAM and CPU power) side and use
> MBP only for travel. For that, 15" models are better. If you are doing large
> Flex projects you are better off spending extra money on very fast
> workstation/being productive and enjoying the rest of the day.
> 2. Apple pricing is a scam - check OWC for memory/HD upgrades
> 3. HD is not user upgradable - however, you can do it with web tutorial for
> less then cost of upgrade.
> 4. You need external 500GB/1TB USB drive for "time machine" if you use MBP
> it for development. Do not even think about backup to NAS drives - not
> unless you are ok with not being able to restore.
> 5. You have to have 2nd large monitor - if you keep older machine you will
> need DVI switch (belkin has OK one for up to 1920x1200)
> 6. You need cooling control util (Apple settings for fan are ridiculous)
> and cooling pad - MBPs run really hot once you start development
> 7. bluetooth mouse (logitech or msft)  - more usable then mighty mouse for
> windows users
> 8. Move your shared data for Windows/Mac/Linux to fast NAS drives - you do
> not want to deal with USB once you have two incompatible file formats.
> 9. Patience
> 10. A lot of it - for the first month you will be in the "terminal" window
> at least couple of times a day till you get your environment to your liking.
> On the bright side, if you are OK with unix or linux, a lot of things are
> much better at this level
>
> Overall the "comfort level" is achievable within 2-3 month. During that
> period be very careful with overriding system pre-installed components like
> MySQL as OS X versions of such widely used products have very limited
> support and dated versions.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Anatole Tartakovsky
> Farata Systems
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM, george_w_canada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> I bought my first Macbook last November for home projects.
>>
>> If you need dual-monitor for development, and has big monitor larger than
>> 1280X800, buy a
>> MBP.
>>
>>
>> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> "scottyale2008" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > How many Flex developers here are using a Mac for development? I've
>> > been a die hard Microsoft guy since ... well, since Microsoft first
>> > started. I went from CPM on a Morrow Meadows to Microsoft DOS (on
>> > computers with a Turbo button!), then Windows, now Vista. I do have an
>> > iPhone and it is an incredible device and the GUI is extremely well
>> > done. I've never used a Mac, but many of my friends have taken the
>> > plunge. Is it time to make the switch? I'm thinking about a Mac Book
>> > Pro. Is a Mac Book even worth considering for a Flex dev machine or is
>> > a Mac Book Pro the way to go? Anybody else make the switch recently
>> > from Windows to Mac?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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