Matt - I like the idea of a few lists, but agree 12 is way too many. I *hate* the way yahoo handles its accounts, and I'd love to move to a list (or lists) hosted and blessed by Adobe, but definitely never going to happen if it's not accessible via email, unless there's some *seriously* flexible (custom?) RSS feeds I could plug into my reader... :)
-Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do think 12 is way too high a number BTW. Would recommend capping at 5 > absolute max. > > > On 6/16/08 8:28 PM, "Matt Chotin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mchotin%40adobe.com>> > wrote: > > Hey guys, > > If you think that splitting the lists is the right thing to do for the > larger community then I'm not going to stop you. I think we were right in > the past to recommend against the split, but I can see Anatole's point that > traffic has stagnated and we'd certainly like the community to thrive. We'll > certainly try to pay attention to as much as possible (not like it's me > doing much but you know some Adobe folks are quite active), but no > guarantees on how it will go. The Adobe forums themselves are definitely > lacking, primarily because we can't access them via email. There is a > project going on within Adobe to improve the experience drastically, and we > definitely intend to split forums there (and hopefully convince everyone to > come back over and move away from Yahoo Groups); but it's still a number of > months away at the earliest. I would hope that folks will continue to help > users of all levels, and we'll need moderators to handle whatever new lists > are created. > > Matt > > On 6/16/08 8:17 PM, "Bjorn Schultheiss" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]<bjorn.mailinglists%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > I like the idea of splitting topics into different lists. > I also like Anatole's suggestions for list types. > > Flexcoders has become to "over-bloated".. > > I would be in favour for looking at topics that I'm interested in. > > Perhaps this will get more of the experienced contributors back on the > list. > > Imagine if OSFlash had only one mailing list. > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto: > flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.com>><mailto: > flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.com>> , "Anatole > Tartakovsky" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is very much > > stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It is not > growing and > > dropping members as fast as it gets them. > > > > I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about a year > ago and > > needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My mail box get 100+ > > messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ > minutes that > > day to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most people > in the > > company unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran > developers I know > > either unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly > diminishing the > > quality of the responses. As a result group mostly host new > developers and > > looses most of experienced ones after very short period of time. > > > > Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness of the group > for all > > of us as now we have significant amount of users that are being > forced out. > > I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) targeted new > > user groups > > > > I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi topics for > > Flex community site to go with each group - providing best posts in more > > systematic way. > > > > I suggest the following Yahoo groups ( created couple for your > > convenience). > > > > Flex101: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flex101/ > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <flex101%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > flex101%40yahoogroups.com <flex101%2540yahoogroups.com>><mailto: > flex101%40yahoogroups.com <flex101%2540yahoogroups.com>> > > > > Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<flex101-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > flex101-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com<flex101-subscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > ><mailto:flex101-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com<flex101-subscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Unsubscribe: [EMAIL > > PROTECTED]<flex101-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > flex101-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com<flex101-unsubscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > ><mailto:flex101-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com<flex101-unsubscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<flex101-owner%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > flex101-owner%40yahoogroups.com <flex101-owner%2540yahoogroups.com> > ><mailto:flex101-owner%40yahoogroups.com<flex101-owner%2540yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > EnterpriseFlex: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/enterpriseflex/ > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<enterpriseflex%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > enterpriseflex%40yahoogroups.com <enterpriseflex%2540yahoogroups.com> > ><mailto:enterpriseflex%40yahoogroups.com<enterpriseflex%2540yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Subscribe: [EMAIL > > PROTECTED]<enterpriseflex-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > enterpriseflex-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com<enterpriseflex-subscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > ><mailto:enterpriseflex-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com<enterpriseflex-subscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Unsubscribe: [EMAIL > > PROTECTED]<enterpriseflex-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > enterpriseflex-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com<enterpriseflex-unsubscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > ><mailto:enterpriseflex-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com<enterpriseflex-unsubscribe%2540yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > List owner: [EMAIL > > PROTECTED]<enterpriseflex-owner%40yahoogroups.com><mailto: > enterpriseflex-owner%40yahoogroups.com<enterpriseflex-owner%2540yahoogroups.com> > ><mailto:enterpriseflex-owner%40yahoogroups.com<enterpriseflex-owner%2540yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > FlexUI > > FlexDesign > > > > FlexSDK > > FlexDeployment > > > > FlexFlash > > > > FlexFrameworks > > > > FlexBestPractices > > > > EnterpriseFlex: > > > > FlexBlazeDS: > > > > weborb: > > > > Sincerely, > > Anatole Tartakovsky > > Farata Systems > > > > > -- "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
