> Now, how do we go about some sort of process to see what kind of support > there is on the list?
A corresponding wordpress blog/website for each list updated with info by the moderators and contributors. It wouldn't have to be an InsideRIA style blog, just info relating to the list. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Josh McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like it :) > > FlexCodersBestPractices could be a very useful forum. Although there might > be some crossover between UserExperience and the existing FlexComponents > list? > > Now, how do we go about some sort of process to see what kind of support > there is on the list? > > Also, if we don't have the support of the Adobe cats that post here, the > idea is definitely dead in the water. They're a *big* help and have the kind > of inside information that takes the rest of us quite a while to replicate > :) > > -Josh > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - FlexCodersAnnouncements > > - FlexCodersRemoteServices > > - FlexCodersUserExperience > > - FlexCodersBestPractices > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, "Josh > > McDonald" <dznuts@> wrote: > > > > > > Drop actionscriptcoders and rename enterprise to RPC (or FlexRemoting or > > > something), and I'm in. 95% of funky flex question are actionscript > > > questions - unless it's an "advanced actionscript" list for things > > like VM > > > internals stuff, in which case case perhaps it just needs a name change. > > > > > > Everybody likes to think what they're doing is "enterprise". What we're > > > doing definitely counts (Oracle *loves* us), but we're all SOAP - we > > don't > > > use LCDS at all, so if people think enterprise is mainly for LCDS stuff > > > we're going to get confusion. > > > > > > Didn't know about ApolloCoders, I think I'll go subscribe :) > > > > > > Definitely like the idea of an announce list, it could be moderated > > or you > > > could subscribe to it as a daily / weekly digest. > > > > > > -Josh > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss < > > > bjorn.mailinglists@> wrote: > > > > > > > Existing > > > > - FlexCoders > > > > - FlexComponents > > > > - ApolloCoders > > > > - FlexJobs > > > > > > > > New > > > > - EnterpriseFlex > > > > - FlexUIDesign > > > > - FlexAnnouncements > > > > - ActionscriptCoders > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><flexcoders% > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Bjorn > > > > Schultheiss" > > > > > > > > <bjorn.mailinglists@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. 101 > > > > > Is creating a new group for this necessary or is flexcoders already > > > > > handling this? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) > > > > > The name seems too abstract, what area are we targeting? > > > > > Is is to "show off" new ideas or syntax questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) > > > > > Love it! Can we replace UI with UX : ) > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks > > > > > Does this include WebOrb/Blaze/LCDS ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks > > > > > Apollocoders exists. not sure what the traffic is like. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, "Josh > > > > > > McDonald" <dznuts@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not a bad list of categories at all Anatole. > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be best if there's still some sort of (read-only?) > > > > > meta-list that > > > > > > shows all messages, and if it were smart enough that you could > > > > read the > > > > > > "all" list and replies went to the correct lists it'd be a > > pretty good > > > > > > common ground I think. I'm no mailing-list-guy though, so no > > idea if > > > > > that's > > > > > > feasible. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky < > > > > > > anatole.tartakovsky@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Splitting the last 500 topics in groups it would be: > > > > > > > 1. 101 > > > > > > > 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) > > > > > > > 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) > > > > > > > 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks > > > > > > > 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of > > folks there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > Anatole Tartakovsky > > > > > > > Farata Systems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Matt Chotin <mchotin@> wrote:t > > > > > > > Practices/Frameworks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do think 12 is way too high a number BTW. Would recommend > > > > > capping at > > > > > > >> 5 absolute max. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On 6/16/08 8:28 PM, "Matt Chotin" > > <mchotin@<mchotin%40adobe.com>> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hey guys, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> If you think that splitting the lists is the right thing to do > > > > > for the > > > > > > >> larger community then I'm not going to stop you. I think we > > were > > > > > right in > > > > > > >> the past to recommend against the split, but I can see > > Anatole's > > > > > point that > > > > > > >> traffic has stagnated and we'd certainly like the community to > > > > > thrive. We'll > > > > > > >> certainly try to pay attention to as much as possible (not like > > > > > it's me > > > > > > >> doing much but you know some Adobe folks are quite active), > > but no > > > > > > >> guarantees on how it will go. The Adobe forums themselves are > > > > > definitely > > > > > > >> lacking, primarily because we can't access them via email. > > > > There is a > > > > > > >> project going on within Adobe to improve the experience > > > > > drastically, and we > > > > > > >> definitely intend to split forums there (and hopefully convince > > > > > everyone to > > > > > > >> come back over and move away from Yahoo Groups); but it's > > still a > > > > > number of > > > > > > >> months away at the earliest. I would hope that folks will > > > > > continue to help > > > > > > >> users of all levels, and we'll need moderators to handle > > whatever > > > > > new lists > > > > > > >> are created. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Matt > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On 6/16/08 8:17 PM, "Bjorn Schultheiss" > > > > > <bjorn.mailinglists@<bjorn.mailinglists%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I like the idea of splitting topics into different lists. > > > > > > >> I also like Anatole's suggestions for list types. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Flexcoders has become to "over-bloated".. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I would be in favour for looking at topics that I'm > > interested in. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Perhaps this will get more of the experienced contributors back > > > > > on the > > > > > > >> list. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Imagine if OSFlash had only one mailing list. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com<flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><flexcoders% > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > <mailto: > > > > > > >> flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > <flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.com>><mailto: > > > > > > >> flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > <flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.com>> , > > > > > "Anatole > > > > > > >> Tartakovsky" > > > > > > >> <anatole.tartakovsky@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > > > > >> > Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is > > very much > > > > > > >> > stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It > > is not > > > > > > >> growing and > > > > > > >> > dropping members as fast as it gets them. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about > > a year > > > > > > >> ago and > > > > > > >> > needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My > > mail box > > > > > get 100+ > > > > > > >> > messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ > > > > > > >> minutes that > > > > > > >> > day to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most > > > > people > > > > > > >> in the > > > > > > >> > company unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran > > > > > > >> developers I know > > > > > > >> > either unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly > > > > > > >> diminishing the > > > > > > >> > quality of the responses. As a result group mostly host new > > > > > > >> developers and > > > > > > >> > looses most of experienced ones after very short period > > of time. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness > > of the > > > > > group > > > > > > >> for all > > > > > > >> > of us as now we have significant amount of users that are > > being > > > > > > >> forced out. > > > > > > >> > I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) > > > > > targeted new > > > > > > >> > user groups > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi > > > > > topics for > > > > > > >> > Flex community site to go with each group - providing best > > > > > posts in more > > > > > > >> > systematic way. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I suggest the following Yahoo groups ( created couple for > > your > > > > > > >> > convenience). > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Flex101: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flex101/ 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> >> > Anatole Tartakovsky > > > > > > >> > Farata Systems > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for > > > > > thee." > > > > > > > > > > > > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > > > > > > :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for > > thee." > > > > > > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > > > :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." > > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
