I will monitor the three of you...so I need one too. George K2CM
________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Ed Haskell [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:42 PM To: bill Cc: [email protected]; Neal Campbell Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] The New Flex radios Smashing idea Bill. But, of course, Flex Radio should also give me one of the radios so that I can monitor the tests you and Neal conduct to make sure everything is on the up and up and that no nefarious motives are involved in any of the conclusions drawn. Ed W1PN On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM, bill <[email protected]> wrote: > good idea Ed. > I propose that Flex give both Neal and I a test radio so that Neal can > remote to my site and vice versa so that we can determine the best > Lan/Ethernet cards. > That way Neal will be able to recommend, supply, and work help new owners > through the start up problems. > > Sounds like a good plan to me > > > > On 5/25/12 11:20 AM, Ed Haskell wrote: > > Neal I hope you are hard at work identifying good LAN/ethernet cards. > > 73 > Ed W1PN > > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Neal Campbell <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I published a "How to tell if your computer is compatible with Flex > Radios" article on the flexradiowiki and Jim you are 100% correct that its > not specifications, its latency (its an amateur audio workstation). > > I am really excited that this part of the configuration will hopefully be > easier for the newbie. I am sure we will be moving to a different kind of > "applicability" in the area of LAN/ethernet latency, so all of those > motherboards with crappy Realtek ethernet controllers (and yes, thats 99% > of them) will have a good exercise in how well they work in this > environment. > > 73 > Neal > On May 25, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Jim Jannuzzo wrote: > > > Robert,I happened into a net presentation on the Flex by a Flexer. > > There were about 20 people on the net, including the former FCC ham radio > enforcement guy. The Flexer had time to prepare his presentation in > advance, but I came in cold. He spoke of how he loved the radio, and all > the difficulties and tribulations in setting it up. He spent most of his > discussion speaking of obscure options and VAC, VSP, and third party > software. When I piped in, I was asked how to set up a Flex and PC. I > replied if it was as difficult as the (very nice Flexer) had said, I'd be > using a Yaesu. > > My off the cuff presentation went as follows: To set up a Flex and PC, > > you have to test the PC first, not for speed and horsepower, but for > latency. This is true for any 'live' audio program. If the PC isn't > working right then you have to troubleshoot it.Then you plug the radio into > the PC with a good $30 cable, and plug the radio into a power supply. Then > you download and install the software. Then you turn the radio on and > broadcast to the world. Now, when you want to get fancy, you can use the > software options to tune more things than any other radio. You can tune SSB > audio with a built in software audio rack. You can connect third party > software to do digital modes without external cables. > > But the mere existence of options does not dictate that you use them. > > If a new user tries to do this right away, he will come away frustrated > and pissed off. Jim KJ2P > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 07:06:45 -0700 > Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] The New Flex radios > > Scott, > > Here is what I do not understand with the new radios. > > 1) Why no extended receive range now that is all digital from the > > antenna. For instance low frequency receive. > > 2) Why no transverters for people that want to have 1 radio does all > > and no extra hardware in the shack. > > 3) Why no 473 khz band? > > Not dinging Flex for anything, as the new radios are a step in the > > right direction for one that has RF ingress and appreciating having a PC be > just right or nothing works right. I understand all of this, as I am still > dealing with some of these issues. > > I wanted to do a presentation on what it took to configure the radio > > and the computer, but there are so many steps that I have decided not to do > it. > > What I will say is that the people at Flex are #1 in my book. The > > fellow Flexers are also #1 in my book. If it was not for the helpful staff > at Flex, Neil Campbell and other fellow Flexers, I would be still be off > the air with the Flex. Is it perfect now...NO! Is it a workable game > plan....Yes! > > I look at Flex Radios as high performance high horsepower engines. Once > > you get them dialed-in, they work extremely well. It just takes some effort > to get them there. It is like the high performance antenna that you and I > both share. > > Dial them in, they work great...it just takes some effort. > > In my honest opinion, they are not plug and play appliances and should > > not be. Is SDR for everyone? No! I personally believe that Flex radios are > for the technically-inclined of the hobby. > > Someday I hope to take my Flex to field day, but a 5000a is not that > > portable. > > My 10 cent opinion. > > 73, > Robert > KB6QXM > "Ham Radio Open Conversation" > Yahoo group owner/moderator > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Scott Myers" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > Subject: [FlexEdge] The New Flex radios > Date: Fri, May 25, 2012 6:21 am > > > A couple other things that are annoyances if you have been a Flexer for > > a > > while, as most of us have. > > -No more issues with firewire. Sometimes, the Firewire interface can > > flake > > out, causing a reboot of the Flex to be necessary, as well as > > disconnecting > > the firewire cable. Also, the occasional problem with RFI in the > > firewire > > for those running QRO. Many lesser motherboards have an iffy firewire > onboard, forcing us to install another more robust firewire card with TI > chipset. > > -DPC latency. Requirement of a relatively high end motherboard in your > > PC > > to insure your bus is bulletproof for bus clocking. No more worrying > > about > > DPC latency when you replace your PC. No more making sure a laptop is > > "just > > so" when you want to run your Flex on field day. Run it on a netbook > > if you > > want with a 6000. > > Guys that have "abandoned" their flexes after a short time usually do > > so due > > to the problems with their computer not having low DPC latency or > > firewire > > issues. And a lot of guys never buy Flex's because they have read and > > know > > about these potential problems with computers married to a Flex. It’s a > black eye that should go away. > > A couple other issues that I will be glad are solved. > > -Latency. That is something I won't miss. Normal mode, safe 1, safe > > 2... > > be gone foul beast. > > - QSK capable. No more clackety-clack. > > 73, > Scott AC8DE > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On > Behalf Of dan edwards > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:34 AM > To: [email protected]; Burke Schlott > Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] The New Flex radios > > Burke > ( correct me where i miss the mark, guys ) i too have enjoyed my F3k > > for > > some time. the new rigs are revolutionary in at least 3 ways, i think. > 1. no longer QSD / QSE. DDC / DUC instead. gives capability to see > > more > > than 192 khz; no more receiver images at 3x F. should be a real treat > > on MF > > / LF. and also the capacity to see the entire 10m band on the pan. > > 2. in the same way flex solved the soundcard problem by putting it in > > the > > rig, the new rigs have DSP processing in the radio. with the FPGA and > > the TI > > processor. relieves some of the pc's processing requirements, i think. > > 3. the new rig connects to the radio through ethernet instead of > > firewire. > > probably much more than this, but these features alone have ME excited. > > It > > is a VERY clever piece of gear. 73, w5xz, dan > > --- On Fri, 5/25/12, Burke Schlott <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > From: Burke Schlott <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > Subject: [FlexEdge] The New Flex radios > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, May 25, 2012, 10:47 AM > > > > I have been using a 5K for several years now and am more than satisfied > > with > > its performance and features. I have read the preliminary info on the > > Flex > > web site and would really like to know just what I could expect in the > > way > > of actual performance improvements that I could expect over the 5K. I > > guess > > what I am saying is that I would like to see the 6K's performance specs > > as > > compared to the 5K similar to what is now available in the product > comparason tab on the web site. > > Burke K1BJS > _______________________________________________ > Flexedge mailing > [email protected]http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz > This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. 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