It was nothing special.  Just a simple SDR receiver; front end,
detector, and audio preamplifier. I just threw something together to
work with a 40m transmitter I was working on.   
 
It just struck me how noisy it sounded running with AGC turned on
compared to my other NC2030 type phased narrow band rigs.  The AGC just
brings the band noise up when no other signal is present.
 
- Dan, N7VE
 

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Hi Dan,

 

I wonder what homebrew this was, and what soundcard was used.

My experience is that the SDR1000 can be very quite when you set the RF
gain.

I like to know what is happening in the homebrew situation (more than
curious) 

 

73 peter pa0pvn

 
groeten Peter
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pa0pvn(a)gmail.com ; pa0pvn(a)amsat.org .
 

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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Tayloe Dan-P26412
Verzonden: zo 21-1-2007 21:54
Aan: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Onderwerp: [Flexradio] Noise floor driven, threshold based AGC?



I was listening to a homebrew SDR receiver last night and it stuck me
how noisy it was compared to my analog, narrow band NC2030.  As I
thought about this for a bit, I think the reason that the NC2030 is so
quiet (besides close attention of audio chain details), is that it has
no AGC.  Thus, I can turn the volume down to where the background noise
is not that high, and tune around the band for signals, and signals tend
to jump out of the (relative) silence and thus tend to stand out against
the background a lot better.

Given the fact that we have complete flexibility over the AGC in
software, I was wondering if we could do something similar, but better.

Suppose the receiver does an average noise level calculation over the
sampled bandwidth (min function?) and then set an AGC threshold above
that point (10 db?).  If the signal falls into the range of the noise
level up to the new AGC threshold, the signal comes through linearly
amplified.  If the signal is higher than the threshold, AGC is applied
to keep it from blasting and or distorting away.

This might give the best of both worlds where the noise floor is not
needlessly amplified, producing a "quiet" receiver, but where AGC kicks
in when needed to keep large signals under control.  This could produce
audio that is much more "listenable" than the current AGC amplified
situation and more controllable than the "AGC OFF" alternative.

- Dan, N7VE

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