I keep visualizing a "click - add a notch" button, after which a notch would appear as a hole in the passband whose edges would adjust like the outer edges of the passband. This could REALLY help psk31!
Jim - W4YXU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane - N9DG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] A More Radical UI Idea - WAS: Manual notch filter? > > --- Eric Wachsmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> While there are questions in that arena, I suspect the more >> problematic >> issue at hand is how to interface with the notch. We have >> just about >> exhausted the combinations of mouse clicks/drags with the >> display. Adding >> another interactive element could easily cause (more) >> confusion. We will >> tread carefully before adding further special handling >> cases to the display >> as a result. > > How about introducing multiple horizontal zones in the > vertical axis of the panadapter/waterfall window? So in > essence they would look kinda like the filter window "zones" > that are now presented vertically to represent the RX(s) on > the panadapter window in today's UI. These zones could then > be denoted/differentiated from each other by background color > shading and/or horizontal line color. Make the number and > specific function of these horizontal zones user definable > options. They would typically be used for any function that > you would use a "slider" control for now. > > The zones would extend the full width of the > panadapter/waterfall window and be used for things like this > manual notch filter, RF(IF) gain, AF gain, frequency, and > maybe a couple other items that are frequently adjusted. So > to use you would simply put the mouse pointer in the zone for > the AF gain for example and then use the mouse wheel to > change the setting value, then the RF gain would be another > zone, and there again you change the value by rolling the > mouse wheel while the mouse pointer is 'in the zone' (a new > marketing slogan???? :)) for RF gain, and so on. > > And perhaps add to this some left and right click > functionality for things that you may want to toggle > frequently. > > An extension of this approach may also be the best way to > handle the individualized control settings for multi RX > instances within the sampling passband as well. So for > example each of the N number of RX processes could have their > own independent means for settings adjustments. These would > only function when you have the mouse pointer in the area > that intersects the vertical filter window and the horizontal > control zones for that (N) RX instance. > > One of the underlying conceptual goals that I'm I seeking > address with this idea is to put as much of the control and > "acting upon" focus for the signals of interest directly on > the panadapter waterfall window itself. And I wouldn't > hesitate to make the panadapter/waterfall window much bigger > if need be to accommodate this. This is all in the interest > of not making the op have to move the mouse pointer away from > the single entity on the display that they currently focused > on. In essence what their eyes are focused on should also be > what the mouse pointer is focused on, and do not make them > move far about the UI window and to have shift focus in order > to change one of these common settings. It is in reality a > radio version of the aviation industry's "heads up display" > concept if you will. > > A couple challenges that I can think of at the moment are: > > 1. How to handle the case when a second (or N) RX instance is > being tuned across another, I'm thinking this could get icky > both programmatically, and usability wise. > > 2. How to handle the narrow filter bandwidth cases were the > vertical filter width is just a fine line, would extremely > hard to hit the horizontal/vertical zone crossings. > > 3. How to keep the existing filter edge adjusting features > that exist today, perhaps can simply relegate them to one of > the zones instead of being anywhere along the vertical axis > of the filter as it is today. > > 4. How to handle the individual settings for the RX instances > that are expanded out the panadapter/waterfall window if you > zoom into just one of them. > > No doubt there numerous other challenges, but those are ones > I can think of as I formulate the whole zone based UI concept > in my mind as sit here and type this. And as may be noted > this design concept is entirely in the context of using just > the generic mouse as the physical control means, and nothing > else. > > And no doubt a design like this would be best pursued once > the new architecture is well underway, so probably not worth > the effort with today's PowerSDR. But it doesn't hurt to > start thinking about it today. > > Thoughts??? (or take your pick): > > 1. Pretty cool idea, I like it. > 2. N9DG *really* needs to address that RF in his shack. > 3. Those mushrooms that N9DG ate were *not* morels. > 4. Huh? You lost me at the second sentence. > > Duane > N9DG > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! 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