On 04/06/2010 06:05 PM, David Megginson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Peter Brown<smoothwater...@adelphia.net>  
> wrote:
>
>    
>> In terms of simplicity, I would like to offer a suggestion of using one (or 
>> more) of the parking positions at airports with (current) parking positions. 
>>  If the user spawns at an airport without any preset parking positions, a 
>> position of  :: 90 degrees to the runway and nose at runway edge ::  should 
>> work for _most_ airports, until that airport is improved and gets a parking 
>> position.
>>
>> James suggestion of a multiplier can work, but I would suggest no more then 
>> (width*1) from the runway.  Too many small airports would drop you in the 
>> woods at a greater multiplier.
>>      
> I realize I'm flogging a dead horse (and won't be offended if people
> tune out), but I just want to mention planes will very rarely be
> parked close to the runway, to avoid accidents if someone gets blown
> off the runway, ground-loops, etc.  A plane parked near the runway
> with fuel in its tanks could make a deadly fireball out of what would
> otherwise be a bit of gear damage, a few broken runway lights, or (at
> worse) a bent wing.
>
> I have seen exceptions, mainly at private and uncertified airports
> (e.g. farm strips), but normally planes are parked with their noses
> against a taxiway, not the runway (or otherwise, a safe distance away
> on a field or apron).
>
>
>    
Hi Dave,

Perhaps those like me that want to go through a normal start up and 
check list, especially in AC that I fly often and know well, can use 
Melchior's  ac_state.nas to accomplish this goal at airports we often 
fly from.  It should be easy to add to the check for state == 0 and in 
that case start with the engine running in take-off configuration 
(meaning all the items in the take off check list are set to nominal 
safe values).  I don't think ac_state.nas is in cvs.  I am attaching a 
tarball copy.  This will require changes to the AC files and perhaps 
addition to ac_state.nas which goes in data/Nasal.

I have used ac_state.nas to create pa24-250 files for KLMO (home 
airport) and KBTL (sisters airport).  By renaming state files, fgfs 
launches with N7764P in a parking area I chose with every switch, 
mixture, etc. as it was when I parked it and shut it down.

Frankly, if you take off from KLMO (Longmont, CO, N7764P home airport) 
or KEIK (Eire, CO) or much worse from KEGE (Eagle County, CO, elevation) 
with the mixture full rich, you may not clear obstacles and for sure 
will use much more of the runway.  In fact a guy from Texas crashed his 
Cardinal, killing his family, departing from KEIK w/o leaning for take 
off.  So it is not possible to achieve safe nominal values that work for 
all fgfs airports.

Regards,
Dave P.



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