Hello again Arnt,

As you would have guessed I am working my way towards debian live as per
your advice previously.


For now I am leaning my way around Debians way of doing things. Rather
pleased as I have just compiled todays SVS against OSG 2.8.8.3 (as advised
by Thorsten) on Lenny and it appears to run quite nicely. It was however a
long haul, quite a few apps from backports and where ever else along the
way. I had not been near a kernel rebuild since I put a soundblaster card to
RedHat3.

A lot of mucking around to get the "nvidia" module loaded and driver
running, a new learning curve along the way. But that gives me some debian
"grounding" before I start to build my image files

This box will take over all of the server duties from the suse box and be a
platform for building my live boot images.  My FG machines are all the same
Nvida card and Intel mother boards to this one.

To be honest I installed mesa but not sure if was the correct one, so many
apt-gets and dpkg commands in one day!

I will let it run the updates to sid over night and see what happens in the
morning.

No big issue to wipe the system and start again with a minimal text system
and upgrade to twm and an xserver from from there, if teh upgrade is not
sucessfull because of something I have installed.

Cheers harry
















On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net> wrote:

>  On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:47:47 +0800, Harry wrote in message
> <AANLkTi==Hrq1ZkQi38+u42y40rg=nw1zrvp8u15ha...@mail.gmail.com>:
>
> > Could I ask how the latest  git repositories fall in.
> >
> > For info:
> > I have just installed via network the latest version of Debian Lenny
>
> ..Lenny is too old for FG-2.2/git, add backports or go Sid or Squeeze.
> Squeeze is Debian testing and the next Debian stable release, some
> time this spring, I take it we want Squeeze to ship with FG-2.2.
>
> ..quickest way is swap Lenny for Sid in your /etc/apt/sources.list
> and do an 'aptitude update &&aptitude safe-upgrade &&aptitude
> full-upgrade'
>
> > (so I can buld FG debian liveboot images) after many years of
> > building FG on Suse distros.
> >
> > I found a few Debian funnies (to me), a complete new arrangment of X
> > for one, but understand different distros sometimes do things
> > differenty and I am feeling my way. But i think the nvidia driver is
> > ok (module loaded and good video) but glx info is not availible?
>
> ..you have mesa-utils?  (Is that the right one for nvidea users?)
>
> ..another reason for Debian Sid, or Debian Squeeze, they add the
> nouveau X driver that the nvidea owners can use to verify Nvidea
> is doing the right things in X, FG, etc, X.org's nv can only do
> software rendering.
>
> > Also some oddies with unavailible dependancies for OSG. cairo,
> > poppler-glib, librsvg-, gtk+_2.0 and Gtkglext-x11-1.0, it seemd to
> > compile an install ok and osgview is functional. I am not sure if
> > these missing items will effect FG.
> >
> > I followed a rather good Debian FG install page from the wiki which
> > listed the OSG dependacies, ( I assume as far as FG is concerned)
> > they all were downloadable and installed ok.
> >
> > So first build of SG and FG went OK, but FG had a seg fault when it
> > fired off the second thread, "splash screen progress setting up time
> > and render". from gdb I figured OSG problem.
> >
> > So grabed the very latest OSG.  2.9.11 i think, however SG compile
> > drops on another OSG issue.
> >
> > So for now I have been back to the nvidia setup and rebuilding OSG. I
> > might have more os dependacie issues to sort, this is not the place
> > to enquire about them unless somewone has just setup a new Debian net
> > install.
>
> ..an easier way to find out is make an usb-image we can put on keys and
> try boot, nearly all machines that can run FG, can also boot off usb,
> and you probably don't wanna do a nvidea-only FG net booter.
>
> > I have problems but i dont think they are actually FG related. I need
> > to follow them up on other forums.
> >
> > What I would like to confirm is, are there any issues with the
> > lastest git OSG with respect to the latest SG/FG git sources? Also if
> > anyone has dealt with this latest Debian lenny from a FG point of
> > veiw..
>
> ..I can only confirm Debian Live and FG-git builds and works ok on my
> laptop on Debian Sid/Experimental and I have 15 to 20 fps @ 1920x1200
> with --full-screen on Debian's Experimental radeon, running it windowed
> in KDE-4.4.5-8 cuts that by half.
>
> > If so what is the best version of OSG to install as I have seen
> > numous posts here and on forums pertaining to changes of OSG of late?.
>
> ..IMHO, whichever OSG ships with Debian Squeeze or Sid.
>
> > Regards Harry
>
>
> --
> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
>  Scenarios always come in sets of three:
>  best case, worst case, and just in case.
>
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