On Thu, 17 Feb 2011, Oliver Fels wrote:


I think the problem is that someone got on their high horse and started jerking him around. If I were him, I'd get just as snotty about it - more
so probably as I've got a much lower tolerance for that kind of nonsense.
[...]
stop. It has no basis in reality. Never has. Frankly I think people are stirring shit up JUST to stir shit up.
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If people give you any crap about the textures, tell 'em to See Figure #1 and ignore 'em. They're just a bunch of bloviating windbags with nothing better to do but run in circles, screaming about crap that'll never happen.

The funny thing is that this mail ended up in my spam folder and I believe it should remain there due to its offensive character.

I'm sorry if reality offends your delicate sensibilities.

You can´t just walk through your neighbors garden just because he is not at home, won´t see it and won´t complain about it.

Nice strawman.  Physical tresspass != trademark infringment.

If we are going in circles then the reason is that some people ignore all information and links provided and restart everything with "give me evidence" and then "don´t care". Evidence *has* been provided that Red Bull is actively sueing folks using the logo for similar purposes, information *has* been provided that RB is seeking the web for copyright infringements and information *has* been provided that using the trademark without explicit grant is illegal. Why restart from scratch?

I've never seen a link to a legal document that has shown RedBull to be actively engaging any entity or group over the use of their trademark logo in any open source project. Put up or shut up. Simple as that.

Simon already inquired RB and until then hold your breath and hope it goes well. Otherwise the state is pretty clear and we will have to take actions.

Until RedBull says in very clear language, "Hey FlightGear! We need you to remove all images that contain our trademark from your scenery & aircraft databases!" you need to stop getting your undies in a twist.

This is btw. another stupid effect of FlightProSim selling FlightGear- this makes it even worse and increases chances that FG will appear on RBs radar one day.

This doesn't have a damn thing to do with that and you know it. I'd LOVE RedBull to chase after FPS! I'm all for anything that'll turn dan freeman into a smoking hole in the ground.

Understand this - no company is going to go to the time and expenditure of a lawsuit of any kind when they know full well a simple letter will accomplish the same task. It would be completely different if FlightGear was a commerical, for-profit project. If THAT were the case, we'd deserve the suing we'd get.

g.

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