> I'm sorry if reality offends your delicate sensibilities. May I remind you of this quote here: >They're just a bunch of bloviating windbags with nothing better to do >but run >in circles,
If that is your style it does not deserve more comments. > > > You can´t just walk through your neighbors garden just because he is > not > > at home, won´t see it and won´t complain about it. > > > Nice strawman. Physical tresspass != trademark infringment. So your sense for legal and illegal depends ? Illegal trespassing is not ok but copyright infringement (by intention) is? For what it´s worth, trademark infringements are often higher punished than illegal trespassing. Depending on the value of the item in question, starting by a few thousands. > I've never seen a link to a legal document that has shown RedBull to be > actively engaging any entity or group over the use of their trademark > logo in any open source project. Put up or shut up. Simple as that. RB is against *any* unauthorized usage. RB *has* denied usage on various RC models (as Heiko and myself stated, links in German upon request) and just that they have not sued FG or a contact person yet does not mean they will not in the future. Because they have every single right to do so and we don´t have any right to include RB trademarks into FlightGear GIT. > Until RedBull says in very clear language, "Hey FlightGear! We need you > to remove all images that contain our trademark from your scenery & > aircraft databases!" you need to stop getting your undies in a twist. Once again: Wrong direction. It is your/my/our responsibility to ensure legality. In case of RB we know that we are currently in an illegal state. > > This is btw. another stupid effect of FlightProSim selling FlightGear- > > this makes it even worse and increases chances that FG will appear on > > RBs radar one day. > > > This doesn't have a damn thing to do with that and you know it. >I'd LOVE RedBull to chase after FPS! The following would happen: RB says "hey they are selling our logo in that FPS thing" and address FPS. FPS will tell them something about GPL and point directly to FlightGear. There you are on the radar. The fact that FPS is commercially selling derivates of FG is pretty critical. > Understand this - no company is going to go to the time and expenditure of > a lawsuit of any kind when they know full well a simple letter will > accomplish the same task. Sueing is not the first step today. The first step always is a declaration of discontinuance with an immediate penalty clause. Lawyers love those as it is pretty few effort and high benefit for them. Oliver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
