Gary Carvell wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Stuart Buchanan <stuar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM, James Turner wrote:
> >> Suggestion - if z/Z are pressed with advanced weather enabled, make the
> popup-message say 'disabled since visibility is being controlled by
advanced
> weather'.
> >>
> >> Another option would be to move the visibility control to a dialog,
with a
> slider / spin box, and explicitly disable it when advanced weather is
selection.
> Then we could lose the keybinding completely, which is something I want to
> move towards for options that are infrequently used, but taking up
> 'keyboard space'.
> >
> > I agree that it shouldn't be a keyboard assignment, and we should remove
> it.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Renk Thorsten <thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi>
> wrote:
> > I don't think any of this is a real issue or under debate at the
> > moment (?) - the whole discussion about z/Z is if the keybinding
> > should be removed [...]
> 
> *Please* don't drop the z/Z key binding. This is one of the most useful
and
> direct controls we have to affect the visual experience.
> 
> It allows the user to directly control the view out the window, trade off
> visuals for frame rate and smoothness on older hardware or complex
> scenery, and trade off realism of flight experience for the simple
pleasure of
> looking out the window for those more into tourism. It can be useful for
> modifying a built-in weather scenario that's close but not exactly what is
> wanted.
> 
> In short, it allows even the newest user to control their FlightGear
visual
> experience according to their particular use case and need for realism.
> 
> I have no problem at all with disabling the keys when (say) advanced
> weather is selected, but for several classes of users and types of use, it
really
> is an important capability and is used often.
> 

I agree. I am just finishing a patch which leaves z/Z as is for Basic
Weather, but makes z/Z control max vis. for Detailed Weather, just like the
slider in the menu. Should give us the best of both worlds.

Testing atm, should be in fgdata soon.

Vivian



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