dear secret fluxus the fluxlist has its moments often from which very interesting projects/ideas/discussions arise
>we >want to ask whether others are as unhappy as we are with a list that has >nothing to do with Fluxus. i take issue with this. a common interest in fluxus does not call for continuous discussion of fluxus, some of the stuff that comes up is as as near to the origins as fluxus as is possible. maciunas take on this thing called fluxus was that it highlighted the unimportance of the artist as artist - fluxus art amusement was about the fact that the processes involved in the 'everyday' are as, if not much more important than those involved in the creation, production and selling of 'art'. the fluxlist is not always interesting, true but it is a pool of potential and ideas sharing - this whole wobbly grinks thing, i have found highly amusing, inspiring on a certain level. it could lead to a textual project who knows... i think it's safe to say that everyone on the list has some interest in fluxus, i have had the great fortune and pleasure to work with (in different manners) quite a few of the fluxus old guard both in nyc and here in italy -and believe me one thing they don't spend a lot of time talking about is fluxus, a lot of time, in my experience, was spent in knockabout banter, banal conversations, you know 'normal' stuff. the list gives a wide range of artista from all over the world the chance to indulge in a little 'fun', like the conversations friends can have after dinner, in the pub, on the phone - out of which ideas arise, projects form and we can all take home something - and like banter between friends we don't alway find something interesting or wish to join in. if you want to start something a little more 'serious' perhaps you can tell us about secret fluxus. i, however, am not always interested in reports of 30 odd year old performances being re-enacted. and this goes for secret fluxus and for 'original' fluxus - i performed the Four-Directional Song of Doubt for Five Voices with emmett, alison, ben and i can't remember who else (mr clavez....who else was there??) and a solo piece at the fluxus constellation in genova which was an amazing experience for me, hopefully a good one for the audience but most probably not a good thing to analyse. emmett's piece is entertaining but turned into a raspberry fest on the vocal sound part - fluxus as light entertainment - for the audience to comment on. my performance of tomas scmidt's zyklus was for me a meditation piece - extremely personal and any description i could write would be pointless (imho). i seemed to have digressed..oh yes this fascination with 'fluxus' often leads to a neglect of current fluxus - are you aware of larry miller's current stuff, what ay-o is up to etc - quite probably, few of us are - i don't think that this is that good really. i owe quite a lot to fluxus in certain ways - fluxus has been important in the development of certain areas of my work, (then again so has my dad and spike milligan) and i'm still trying to define it - (this is a recurrent discussion topic, perhaps you'd like to contibute ideas?) however constant discussion, in my experience can get in the way of the spirit of things. to say that fluxlist has nothing to do with fluxus shows (imho!) a gross misunderstanding of fluxus itself - fluxlist is not Fluxus, however it is a meeting place for people who have a common interest, it is not always an interesting place, but on occasion great things happen. it is not always about regurgitating the past but often about working with influence of past events to create something current. if secret fluxus is bored with the list why doesn't seret fluxus contibute something? this 'complaint' is valid and has provoked responses, it will blow over and be forgotten about...so what next? what do you want to talk about? alan p.s. bowman is in the "return to sender" show at Waygood http://www.waygood.org/ (the site is crap! but i am doing some email music pieces contact the gallery to be included - do it properly guys! i could just send you the instructions, but i want it to come via the waygood postal room event, i'm just funny that way! the 3 pieces are: FFFO RTS PRW (sim-phoney)(2004) You (2004) Date of Birth (Musical Version, 2004)
