So far I have stayed out of this discussion, as I felt it wasn't my itch. I
agree with Joshua that a poll doesn't have much merit. For those who think a
poll is relevant, I would like to be counted in the "happy with the current
markup language" camp.
Personally, I would like to have the ability to switch between fossil markup
and wysiwyg edit modes, as long as it does not bloat fossil nor makes it
vulnerable to exploits. I have some ideas as to how that might work, but I will
stay silent on the topic until I have working code to offer for review &
discussion. That will be well into the future, as the topic is low on my
priority list.
Paul
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From: fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org on behalf of Kurtis
Rainbolt-Greene
Sent: Sun 12/6/2009 10:57 AM
To: fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] The case for Markdown (yes, I rtfm)
Try closer to 40. It may be a small number compared to the amount of people who
download Fossil but I believe it to be a representative number.
So yes, I'm calling this an "overwhelming majority". You can stick your head in
the sand if you want but this is a pretty clear cut case of: Software is
lacking, there is room for improvement, a majority desire improvement.
This kind of stagnation over something that is clearly a needed improvement is
likely to make me walk away from Fossil.
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Michael McDaniel <fos...@autosys.us> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 03:26:20PM -0500, Joshua Paine wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:46 -0800, Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene wrote:
> > If the feature were put in wouldn't it just be "people with old
fossil
> > needing to update"?
>
> Yes, but...
>
> > I'm not sure I get why there's talk of "custom fossil". This is a
> > feature that a overwhelming majority want.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Let us please keep a context when using loaded phrases such as
"overwhelming majority want".
I believe the context for the phrase is a straw poll which
was taken by approximately twenty people who subscribe
to this mailing list. Likely there are more people
than myself who subscribe and did not vote.
My unsupported-by-evidence belief is that there are
magnitudes more people who use fossil than the twenty
or so votes in the straw poll. I doubt that we can
accurately extrapolate all users' sentiments from
that poll. A download counter at fossil-scm.org
<http://fossil-scm.org/>
may provide a sense of how much fossil is used (of
course, each download does not necessarily indicate
a new user or users).
The current fossil wiki and embedded documentation are
fine by me. If people want to add to their own "stuff",
they have that capability.
I most especially would want never to see, e.g. javascript
as a mandatory part of using fossil. Many scripting languages,
and javascript particularly, are great holes for inserting
code to compromise a machine via the web browser.
I prefer my source control management system to present
as few risks as possible for code corruption, undesired
distribution, or compromise of my users' machines when
using the SCM. No doubt I am not alone with that sentiment.
~Michael
>
> But it's a feature that DRH said some time ago on the fossil site that
> he considered and rejected, and since he has stayed out of this
> conversation, I conclude that he's sticking to his decision or at best
> will reconsider only if some working code appears.
>
> If one were to implement markdown or some other more complete text
> formatting language in C, DRH might still not be willing to include
it,
> so that route means hoping DRH will change his mind, or settling for a
> custom version of fossil.
>
> --
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