At 10:56 AM -0800 1999/12/8, Mike Smith wrote:

>  The right attitude to be taking now is "here is where the ata drivers
>  still fall down" or "here are patches to them to replace this
>  functionality".  Think about the longer-term goals here folks.

        I understand where Julian is coming from.  In fact, my initial 
reaction was the same.  However, I have reluctantly been converted to 
be in agreement with Mike and Søren (among others).

        This is -CURRENT.  It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to 
run anything "useful" on -CURRENT gets what they deserve.  This is 
the only place where we can make clean breaks with the past, and as 
painful as that can be, we simply have to do that occasionally.


        I'm sure this isn't necessary amongst this group of people, but 
I'll quote from <http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html> 
anyway:

>>      18.1.1. What is FreeBSD-current?

        [ ... deletia ... ]

>>                                           While many of us
>>      compile almost daily from FreeBSD-current sources, there are
>>      periods of time when the sources are literally un-compilable.

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