Mariusz Grad wrote:
Mike Tancsa:

A somewhat obvious question to some perhaps, but what server application mix on FreeBSD today sees an improvement using 64bit CPUs ? In my ISP centric world, my big apps are BIND, IMAP/POP3, httpd via apache, SMTP, AV and SPAM scanning, and firewalls/routing. Apart from larger RAM, why would these benefit from the 64bit world ? Or would they ?

Benefits from AMD64: - larger RAM limit (40bit memory address), - 64bit GRPs, - much faster access to memory (memory controller inside core - no northbridge), - it much better scales (with many CPUs) (he doesnt share memory bandwith), - large caches L1 = 64KB, L2 = 1MB (comparing to xeon 12/512K),

Some Xeon's have 2MB now..

- DEP = Data Execution Protection (it has to be supported via OS),

Intel has the 'NX' (no execute) bit - isn't this the same?

- Multimedia Extensions for graphics / vector processing.

Xeon's have this too I believe (I don't think this is anything new either).

= Opterons remove memory bottlenecks espacially with multi-cpus.

Ive had large acceleration at:
- math computation (f77, 2-4GB double precision matrix) single opteron 1.8GHz 
(sun v20z) was 4x faster then celeron 2.4GHz.
- databases (pgsql) Opteron 1.8 GHz 2x faster then Xeon 3.2

That's interesting, although I wouldn't compare a Celeron against an AMD64, but interesting nonetheless.


I would assume that everything which can run:
- in parallel,
- on multi-Opterons CPU,
- which uses heavly RAM,
- which can take benefits from 64bit registers (floating points),
will have _extreamly_ boost comparing to Intels EMT64 (or Itanium2).

Agreed..

Eric



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Eric Anderson        Sr. Systems Administrator        Centaur Technology
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