Hi Guys,

This is really up to those in charge to take the decision but the hosting
offer still stands. SF can be a huge pain in the rump though.


Jonathan Aquilina


On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:15 AM D Blakeley via Freecol-developers <
freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> A few things to reply to!
>
> *Mike:*
> I think Winter is after your thoughts/approval on his new site ideas. Also
> I have just posted at this link below, if you could spare a moment to help
> out a fellow Aussie I'd appreciate it thanks haha. Should be the last time
> I have to pester you about a big sourceforge change as this really is the
> last thing it needs to help your fans navigate to the right places! After
> this in the future it just might be a thread sticky or 2 which I can pester
> David about.
> https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/discussion/719661/thread/42b0844f/#a702/9e85/07a6/d983/f301
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> *Winter:*
> *> No, I do not want the website to gain even more warnings. I was hoping
> we could*
> *> decide on which pages with warnings are still useful, which could be
> deleted.*
>
> Opps sorry I misread that part as I thought winter was referring to
> heavily outdated sections of the site not labeled as such. Everyone ignore
> what I said on that bit lol.
>
> *Jonathan:*
>
> *> I would be willing to sponsor some webhosting on my shared cpanel
> server.*
> *> I was thinking of setting up wordpress for the site?*
>
> Your later point was certainly what I was thinking as Wordpress is so darn
> low maintenance and easy to use and controls the annoying sorting &
> navigation of all the news items for you. Creating pages and posts is dead
> easy too as its pretty much like a word doc editing but if you want full
> control then you can access the html code behind the page editor too. It's
> also pretty good for setting up separate non-news page sections too. Eg all
> those project info and history pages etc could easily be copy & pasted to
> wordpress section pages accessed through a wordpress main menu similar to
> the existing sites menu options. Wordpress menu buttons also support drop
> down options meaning all sub sections from the old site could be easily
> brought across too. I use a wordpress blog for all my website news now
> (separate from my main website thats store elsewhere), I don't use drop
> down menus but if you click on either my 'Fav Fan Game Projects' or my
> 'What's Blake Playing Right NOW' buttons you'll be taken to wordpress
> hosted sections that are NOT part of the news blog.
> https://blakessanctum.wordpress.com/
>
> *Winter:*
>
> *> IIRC, one problem with this was the goal to keep all parts of the
> project> on a single provider (like SF or GitHub).*
>
> But yeah as winter points out I don't think they want offsite hosting, as
> fully accessible public hosting is better for everyone to help out on. I'm
> not sure if a wordpress built site can be put into a SF/Github hosted area
> but if it can then I'd be all for that as I can EASILY help in all areas of
> moving content across and adding new news items etc.
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> *> Yes, I always found it the right decision to stop using a CMS,
> especially*
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> *> when nobody can commit to updating it regularly. I only have about a
> month> before starting in my new job, not sure how much time I have then.
> That's> why my main concern is to get the website into a fixed, sustainable
> state> without need of much maintenance soon.> For that, I'd just like to
> have it in a way to not need every news 3 times> and having links updated
> automatically.> Maybe the way to get that could be static page generation
> for news articles> before uploading? We would not need anything fancy, if
> it could just find> a few magic tags in slightly modified current pages and
> add articles from> text files and generate links to the articles, it would
> be sufficient.*
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> Well good thing I've got the next month off work because that means I can
> help you try and sort this mess out into something low maintenance before
> we both get busy again! :)
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> And yeah if some sort of news making page can be constructed that does all
> the inserting and news list management stuff for you on the existing site
> that'd be fine too. As presumably then even someone like me could use it to
> create news if needed lol!
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> *> as mentioned below, I'd like to add static page generation.> I think,
> Jekyll would be nice for that:> - https://jekyllrb.com/
> <https://jekyllrb.com/>> - It would make it easier to add new
> content/news.> - It allows for removing redundancies in pages.> - We could
> slowly transition page by page (maybe just> the news at first).> - It
> supports markdown (could, for example, translate
> the> cv3-discoverer-english/log.md into html after a tiny change).> - It is
> also used in GitHub Pages, so it'd be compatible> in case of a move
> there.> - It only needs a Ruby installation with the gem installed,> then
> one more line in console/script for uploading and> a slightly changed
> directory to upload from.*
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> *> I installed it here and it looks like it works for me.> I'd just need
> to know beforehand, if you would approve of> using it?*
>
> I've never heard of these guys but if they have a nice easy to use
> frontend that allows even noobs like me to create website content (eg
> menus, pages, inserting text & pictures) much like the wordpress and wix
> webpage builders but obviously also has that lovely well organised backend
> code access for pros like you guys to tinker with if needed (or even some
> one like me who knows a bit of html to play with if needed) then I'm all
> for for this idea too mate! :)
>
> However I realise I'm not the one you were hoping you'd get a reply to
> your question from haha! :P Hopefully Mike or someone can give you their
> thoughts on that. :)
>
> If we do go ahead with something new we'd wanna create it in a different
> folder on sf/gh and bring over resources from old wewbsite folders only
> when needed so that we're creating a nice new clean well organised
> site/folder/file structure from the ground up without the 20years of junk
> that has accumulated in the old site folders.
>
> I'm gonna hold off on my big screenshot and videos section overhaul plans
> I previously talked about until these website future plans are decided on
> as there's not much point in me working on the existing screenshot section
> pages and sub pages if a whole new site is going to be developed!
>
>
> Regards
>
> Blake
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