Anyone interested in this thread should perhaps attend the seminar,
"lnventing to transform lndia" being organized by
"The National Academy of Sciences, India" and "lntelIectual Ventures" (
http://www.intellectualventures.com) at IITD.
Might seem off topic, but one would be surprised with "what a small world!"
of invention.

It seems like the latter is sponsoring the activities all around India.
Today is the second day. Yesterday it started at 6 PM.
Feel free to ask me off the list about the major stakeholders.

Cheers,
Ajay



On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Andrew Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM, "Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ravindra patake wrote:
> >
> >> In one hand we say that our CSIR research outputs have no use because it
> >> always remain in journals none is applied in reality or commercialized
> and
> >> on the other hand if CSIR is allowing to use something that could be
> >> applied, that could be come in reality then why we r opposing the
> things?
> >
> > Umm.. a very bad analogy would be that I (or a large set of I s) invest
> > in a house you own/have custody of and now you expect me to pay you to
> > use the facilities of the house - at some point in time I need to have a
> > return on my initial investment don't I ?
>
> I think the article being discussed is quite clear in what it says:
> CSIR has badly managed its patenting strategy.
> CSIR already holds a large patent portfolio - and there was a general
> push to recognise scientific innovation by patents rather than
> peer-reviewed publications in the years leading to the implementation
> of GATT. However - in true Indian style - the number of patents and
> not its productivity were what was touted, as a result of which CSIR
> earned ~4 crore from its patent holding, and spent ~10 crore in filing
> and maintaining them. The proposal of a holding company is to maximise
> the profitability of its patents - not just in extracting maximum
> profit from existing patents, but also in selecting what to patent.
>
> Much of the argument on this thread is on the validity of CSIR
> patenting in the first place, especially with  public funding - the
> source of which is conveniently personalised!
> Not all CSIR research is publically funded. And very little of it
> follows the patent model. The entire leather industry - which employs
> 2.5 million people in our country - is empowered due to pioneering
> work by CLRI in developing novel technology for tanning, and
> transferring it to both the organised AND unorganised sectors. No
> industry bothered in investing in the R&D, and no "benevolent
> government" passed on technology. CSIR has also recently  gone out on
> a limb by pushing Open Source into its R&D  with the Open source Drug
> Discovery program. I hope it works. I work for it.
>
> A patent is still required for products which scale with industrial
> production and have a global market. CSIR is probably hedging its
> bets. Patent products that have "value", and encourage unfettered
> research in "valueless" products such as leather, and drugs for
> tuberculosis and tropical disease. Note that value is determined by
> its demand in the global market (read countries with purchasing power)
> and not by the social good of an invention.
>
> Andrew
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