Hi again Rugxulo, > So VMware needs PCNET? VirtualBox needs AMDPD? QEMU needs NE2000? > Anybody know BOCHS? (Yes, I'm assuming more re: emulation than real > hardware here, isn't that reasonable?)
Bochs emulates a bad(?) NE2000 and a nonstandard "PCI Pseudo NIC" for which an Etherboot driver exists so HPA of Syslinux will know. In general, virtual or not, I am always a fan of RTL8139 drivers even if I cannot use them :-D Afair, Dosemu magically supports a DOS packet driver interface and IPX, maybe no virtual NIC, or at most some NE2000... I never really tried dosemu networking ;-) >> Some might argue even 10MB or so is already huge when all basic content >> fits on a bootdisk (fdisk/format/sys/kernel/shell) Basic for me is more like your Ruffidea distro for 1-3 floppies :-) Has really many tools, most of the things that MS DOS users know. > Well, what exactly can you do with kernel + shell? Not much! Yes so that is for "make a minimal bootdisk and add your stuff". > throw a compiler, a text editor, a game, *something useful* Compilers and games are not very basic, but some games are tiny. > Most attractive to average users (rough guess): > > Mpxplay > Bret's USB > CuteMouse > mTCP + common packet drivers > Arachne > WGET I agree on all of those, as long as Arachne configures well. Maybe useful to run that in a ramdisk for performance... > Mined > GNU Emacs No experience with that in DOS but a big editor like sededit is indeed nice to have around... > Perl > Python Quite specific to some target audiences. Also real DOS Perl is quite outdated, while DOS/Windows Perl is quite large? > OpenGem A GUI only makes sense with a good bunch of apps for it so GEM is a category for itself, in terms of installer packs. > OpenWatcom + NASM Depends on how small or how complete you want to go. Surely useful to have at least enough to compile the kernel. UPX! > FreeDoom + Eternity Engine :-D > HXRT + HXGUI Specific for running Windows apps but indeed cool. > p7zip And advanced mame advzip :-) > DJGPP (GCC + GPP + Watt-32) See OpenWatcom topic. Not THAT many FreeDOS apps use this compiler. The set of DJGPP compiled apps is huge if you look at all the ported GNU things available. > UIDE + XMGR + RDISK + SHCDX33E > DOSLFN Something like that, yes, sure. > Odi's LFNtools > LTOOLS If you say Ltools, you should also say smbclient ;-) Note that Ltools make it easy to shoot your own foot so maybe they are not for general users. If you have a "simple Linux" style distro, just drag files to your DOS drive in the Linux GUI instead of messing up your Linux drive from within DOS with some evil ltools... > TestDisk + PhotoRec If those are both freeware enough, sure :-) > xpdf (or Ghostscript?) Afair Blair ported both? > Doszip (or DN/2?) And filemaven with com/lpt cable file transfers :-) > 4DOS (or Bash?) Both! > Keyb + CPI (+ mode + nlsfunc), etc. etc. Well, international stuff in any case. At least language files and the kernel built-in functionality and at least MKEYB :-) > There's an easy (obvious?) answer to that: include common packet > drivers (see above), and let mTCP's FTP grab WGET itself from iBiblio! > "Bam, problem solved!" ;-) Mwah for people with USB4 wireless telepathic networking it is better to download whatever they want from ibiblio from Windows 10 and then use DOS only to install those zips... Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on "Lean Startup Secrets Revealed." This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
