Well... About the next release of FreeDos... I want Dillo for my next Freedos game. It is educative and i am going to use a help based on wikipedia. I want Setedit. I recommend Rhino (optional) of Djgpp. I want Kraptor... It is a new year tradition. I want fpc, djgpp, fasm and I recommend Pov Ray 3.5... if you like. I used this and others a lot. I want freebasic and watcom, but i do not use freebasic nor watcom. I want new software about a lor of things... Very thanks for my favorite SO.
El 24 oct. 2020 1:39 PM, "Jim Hall" <jh...@freedos.org> escribió: > Some of us had this conversation a while back and I wanted to bring it up > again on the list. > > MS-DOS was a small operating system. MS_DOS 5 and 6 fit on a few 1.44MB > floppy disks. > > We always intended FreeDOS to not just *replace* but *enhance* DOS. > FreeDOS is "MS-DOS plus more." To make clear what's part of the "core" of > FreeDOS, we have the "Base" package group. These packages replicate the > behavior and functionality of MS-DOS. But we also have a lot of other > packages that add new functionality to FreeDOS, and we put these programs > in other package groups like "Editors" (additional editors) and "Devel" > (compilers, assemblers, and other development tools). > > Over time, FreeDOS has grown to include lots of interesting programs. The > FreeDOS 1.2 and 1.3RCx distributions are very big. > > As we look to the next FreeDOS 1.3 Release Candidate, I think we should > consider removing some packages from the FreeDOS distribution. > > To be clear: I am not suggesting deleting packages or programs from the > FreeDOS archive at ibiblio. There's lots of useful and interesting programs > there. But I don't think we need to include everything in the FreeDOS > *distribution*. > > Here are my thoughts from the FreeDOS 1.3 package list (wiki) > <http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages> > > *Base* > Keep everything > > *Archivers* > Do we really need all of those archivers? For example, who needs Zoo these > days? My suggestions: > 1. Move bz2, gzip, and tar to the "Unix" group - these are replicas of > Unix tools > 2. Keep zip, unzip, p7zip > 3. Remove the other packages: 7zdec, arj, cabext, lpq1, lzip, lzma, lzop, > zoo > > *Note that p7zip can unpack a ton of other file formats, so we don't need > these other archivers anyway. > > *Boot Tools* > *I don't have any strong feelings here. What are your thoughts? > > *Development* > Can we pare down the list a bit? We have a lot of packages here, but I > don't think we need them all. For example, we should include the tools we > know we'll need to compile the different FreeDOS utilities. I'd also like > to keep the GCC related packages, and other packages that remain popular. > My suggestions: > 1. Move perl to the "Unix" group > 2. Keep BWBasic, the DJGPP packages, FASM, the FBC packages (FreeBASIC > Compiler) fpc (FreePascal compiler), the GCC-IA16 packages, JWASM, NASM, OW > (OpenWatcom C Compiler), and UPX > 3. Remove bcc (Bruce's C Compiler), euphoria, insight, lua, regina, runtime > > *I think I missed some packages in that list. I don't have a good opinion > on those. What do you think? > > *Editors* > Not sure about these. I know there are a few here I'd like to keep: > Blocek, Elvis, FED, Freemacs, MSEDIT, pico, Vim > > *I don't have a good opinion on the other editors in the list. Which ones > do you think need to stay? > > *Emulators* > I don't think that these are useful to include in the full > distribution. These all fall in the general category of "games," anyway. I'd > recommend we eliminate the entire "Emulators" package group. > > *Games* > I generally feel that we can add and remove games in the FreeDOS > distribution on a whim. If a game is interesting and open source, we can > include it. When a game stops being interesting, or doesn't interest a lot > of people, we can remove it. > > *I really enjoy Wing and a few others. I don't have strong opinions on the > other games. What are your thoughts? > > *Graphical Desktop* > We added GUIs a long time ago when people were still doing active > development on OpenGEM, oZone, and Seal. If you've been part of the > discussion for a long time, you also remember we included a few other > graphical menus and things that have since fallen out of the distribution. > I think it's time to look at these GUIs too. My recommendations: > 1. PC-GEOS was released as open source software. I haven't followed it, > but last I checked, they weren't able to compile it (missing libraries, I > think - requires some rewrites?) *If they can get this to compile*, I > think we can include it. *If they still can't compile it*, then do not > include it. > 2. Remove SEAL and oZone. These haven't been worked on for a long time, > and they are still incomplete > 3. Keep OpenGEM. It's not under active development, but it's currently > pretty solid, if plain looking > > *Networking* > I don't run FreeDOS with a network, so I don't have any opinions on these > packages. What do you think? > > *Sound* > I know OpenCP and MPlayer both work fine, because I demo'd them in a > YouTube video. I don't have any opinions otherwise. > > *Unix* > The wiki page lists a few packages to remove based on duplicates or > license concerns. > 1. Move bz2, gzip, and tar from "Archivers" to "Unix" > 2. Move perl from "Devel" to "Unix" > > *Utilities* > We have a mix of things in this package group. I think some of these were > interesting long ago, but probably aren't used anymore and can be deleted. > My recommendations: > 1. Keep aefdisk, ansimat, bootfix, callver, cdrcache, cdrom2ui clamav + > clamdb, cpied, cwsdpmi, dialog, dn2, dog, dos32a, dosutil, doszip + dzemm, > fdimples + fdisrc, fdnpkg, fdshield, fdtui, foxcalc, foxtype, gcdrom, > gnuchcp + gnufonts, hexcomp, localize, lptdrv, memteste, ntfs, pcisleep, > pdtree, pg, rcal, rdisk, search, setlock, shareext, shsufdrv, slowdown, > spool, srdisk, stamp, switchar, udvd2, uhdd, uide, unrtf, usbdos, utf8tocp, > V8power, wcd, wde, xdel, xfdisk, xkeyb, xmgr > 2. Remove b64, blwcbc, bmp2png, bsum, daa2iso, edict, fdshell, finddisk, > flashrom, gifsicle, hip, hiram, pgme, pngcrush, sqlite, terminal, topspin, > wptail, zdir, zerofill > > *We have both doslfn and lfndos, but do we need both? Is one better (more > complete) than the other? > **If I missed any of Jack's utilities, that's an oversight from me. I > would want to keep them. > ***I skipped some packages in that list. I don't have a good opinion on > those. What do you think? > > > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > >
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