I guess the problem is that those regions should not be out of bounds.
Maybe I need to create a new Lookup Table for the infant mri's? Is that
possible to do?


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Douglas N Greve
<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>wrote:

> Hi Mark, please post to the list and not to me.
> thanks
> doug
>
> On 07/24/2013 03:21 PM, Mark Plantz wrote:
>
>> I guess the problem is that those regions should not be out of bounds.
>> Maybe I need to create a new Lookup Table for the infant mri's? Is that
>> possible to do?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Douglas N Greve <
>> gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
>> <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     what is the problem exactly? The fact that there are red regions
>>     or that that the red regions are labeled as "Out of Bounds"? If
>>     the latter, you will need to create a LUT that matches your
>>     regions. the out of bounds means that the index in the volume does
>>     not match an index in the LUT.
>>     doug
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 07/24/2013 01:26 PM, Mark Plantz wrote:
>>
>>         Finally got the registration to work. However, it looks like
>>         the out of bounds regions (in red) are still present (even
>>         though the regions are well within our boundaries). Is that
>>         expected since they were labeled in the original segmentation
>>         volume? Is there anyway to correct those?
>>
>>         Thanks for all of the help!
>>
>>         - Mark
>>         p.s. I attached a picture of the original brain.mgz file
>>         viewed with the corrected segmentation volume
>>
>>
>>         On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Mark Plantz
>>         
>> <markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>>         
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>> >
>>         
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>>
>>         
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>             Finally got the registration to work. However, it looks
>>         like the
>>             out of bound regions (in red) are still prevalent. Is that
>>             expected since they were present in the original segmentation
>>             volume? Would there be anyway to correct those?
>>
>>             Thanks for all the help!
>>
>>             - MP
>>
>>
>>             On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Mark Plantz
>>             
>> <markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>>         
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>> >
>>             
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>>
>>         
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Nevermind, it turned out to be a permissions issue.
>>         Thanks!
>>
>>
>>                 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Mark Plantz
>>                 
>> <markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>>         
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>> >
>>                 
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>
>>
>>         
>> <mailto:markplantz2016@u.**northwestern.edu<markplantz2...@u.northwestern.edu>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Thanks for the reply Doug. I recently ran the
>>         bbregister
>>                     command and attempted to view the results using
>>                     tkregister2. I received the following error:
>>
>>                      dhcp-165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>
>>         <tel:165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>>:Desktop
>>
>>
>>                     IngvalsonLab$ tkregister2 --mov
>>                            /Volumes/Wong_Lab/**CochlearImplant/UNC_NiFTI/
>> **infant-1yr-mgz/mri/avgseg.mgz
>>                     --reg /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/**register.dat
>> --surf
>>
>>                     tkregister_tcl
>>                     /Applications/freesurfer/**tktools/tkregister2.tcl
>>                     INFO: no target volume specified, assuming
>>         FreeSurfer orig
>>                     volume.
>>                     target  volume orig
>>                     movable volume
>>                            /Volumes/Wong_Lab/**CochlearImplant/UNC_NiFTI/
>> **infant-1yr-mgz/mri/avgseg.mgz
>>                     reg file /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/**register.dat
>>                     LoadVol        1
>>                     ZeroCRAS       0
>>                     $Id: tkregister2.c,v 1.121.2.1 2011/03/28 20:25:16
>>         greve Exp $
>>                     Diagnostic Level -1
>>                     regio_read_register(): Undefined error: 0
>>                     Error reading subject from
>>                     /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/**register.dat
>>                     ERROR: reading
>>         /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/**register.dat
>>                     dhcp-165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>
>>         <tel:165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>>:Desktop
>>
>>
>>                     IngvalsonLab$
>>
>>                     I do not believe it is a permissions issue?
>>
>>                     Could it simply be that the register was bad? Is
>>         there an
>>                     easy way to open up the register.dat.mincost file
>>         to check
>>                     the registration?
>>
>>                     Thanks again,
>>
>>                     MP
>>
>>
>>                     On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Douglas Greve
>>                     <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>                     
>> <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>
>>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                         You can try using bbregister. Normally, you
>>         don't use
>>                         bbregister on a segmentation, but the segmentation
>>                         index numbers just happen to be "T1-weighted".
>>                         doug
>>                         ps. Please remember to copy the list when
>>         responding.
>>                         thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>                         On 7/23/13 9:51 AM, Mark Plantz wrote:
>>
>>                             Hi Doug,
>>
>>                                Sorry about that vague explanation. So
>>             I received
>>                             a series of infant brain atlases from a
>>             UNC medical
>>                             research group
>>                                        (http://www.med.unc.edu/bric/**
>> ideagroup/free-softwares/unc-**infant-0-1-2-atlases<http://www.med.unc.edu/bric/ideagroup/free-softwares/unc-infant-0-1-2-atlases>
>> ).
>>                             I have a series of infant MRI's that I
>>             would like to
>>                             segment (using the infant atlases, instead
>>             of the
>>                             default adult atlas in FreeSurfer).
>>
>>                                As a preliminary step, I was attempting
>>             to check
>>                             the alignment of one of the atlas files
>>                             ('avgseg.mgz') with one of the input brains
>>                             ('brain.mgz'). [I attached these two
>>             files, just in
>>                             case].
>>
>>                             So my command line would be:
>>
>>                             tkmedit $Subject brain.mgz -segmentation
>>             avgseg.mgz
>>                             $FREESURFER_HOME/**FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
>>
>>                             The result was the previously attached
>>             image. I was
>>                             just wondering if there is any way to
>>             shift the two
>>                             images manually so the alignment is
>>             better? Or maybe
>>                             the two files are simply not compatible
>>             with one another?
>>
>>                             Thanks for all the help!
>>
>>                             Best,
>>
>>                             Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                             On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Douglas N
>>             Greve
>>                             <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>             <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> >
>>                             
>> <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>
>>             <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                                 Hi Mark, I have no idea what you are
>>             doing. Can
>>                                 you send a command line?
>>                                 Are either of the images generated by FS?
>>                                 doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 On 07/22/2013 03:56 PM, Mark Plantz wrote:
>>                                 > Hello FreeSurfers,
>>                                 >
>>                                 >     I recently obtained a set of infant
>>                                 templates. Out of curiousity,
>>                                 > I decided to view one of the input
>>             brains with
>>                                 the provided segmented
>>                                 > volume file. It appears that there
>>             is some
>>                                 misalignment. I wouldn't
>>                                 > expect the alignment to be perfect,
>>             since I am
>>                                 basically overlaying an
>>                                 > average of multiple brains onto one.
>>             However,
>>                                 it looks like this
>>                                 > misalignment may be caused by
>>             either: 1.) the
>>                                 segmentation volume file
>>                                 > being shifted down or 2.) the slices
>>             not lining
>>                                 up properly (i.e. one
>>                                 > file starts before the other).
>>                                 >
>>                                 >    Any ideas what could cause a
>>             problem like
>>                                 this? Could it be that
>>                                 > the segmented files are simply not
>>             compatible
>>                                 with FreeSurfer?
>>                                 >
>>                                 > Thanks for the help,
>>                                 >
>>                                 > Mark
>>                                 >
>>                                 >
>>                                 >
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