The 4th handles any translation. The 3x3 handles rotation and any scale.


On 9/11/13 10:21 AM, Garikoitz Lerma-Usabiaga wrote:
Hi Doug,
just a very naive question about coordinate change: why do we need the fourth component? I mean, shouldn't be the transformation matrix 3x3 instead of 4x4 for a coordinate change in 3D space?
thanks!
Gari


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:

    Hi Yang, I've computed a matrix that should do the trick. If you
    are in
    matlab, then

    M = [    0.9975   -0.0073    0.0176   -0.0429
         0.0146    1.0009   -0.0024    1.5496
        -0.0130   -0.0093    0.9971    1.1840
              0         0         0    1.0000]
    P305 = [MNI305x MNI305y MNI305z 1]';
    P152 = M*P305

    Can you give this a shot and see if it makes sense? It will
    probably be
    hard to tell since the matrix is pretty close to identity.

    doug




    On 09/10/2013 05:17 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
    > Thanks, Doug. I am really hoping to get MNI152 (because I also use
    > fsl). Are MNI305 and MNI152 the same? How can I obtain MNI152
    coordinates?
    >
    > Best,
    > Daniel
    >
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    > On 9/10/13 5:14 PM, "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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    > <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
    <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote:
    >
    >
    >     It is an estimate of Tal coords from the MNI305. See
    >
    > http://imaging.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/imaging/MniTalairach
    >
    >     If you want MNI305, run mri_surfcluster with --nofixmni
    >
    >     doug
    >
    >
    >
    >     On 09/10/2013 05:08 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
    >
    >         Hi all,
    >
    >         The output of mri_surfcluster --sum shows TalX TalY
    TalZ. I am
    >         wondering if they are based on the Talairach system or some
    >         sort of
    >         MNI-Talairach system. If the latter, can you tell me
    something
    >         more
    >         about it? Like a webpage that describes its relationship
    >         between the
    >         MNI152 or the Talairach system?
    >
    >         I find it confusing because mri_surfcluster said: "INFO:
    >         fixing MNI
    >         talairach coordinates"
    >
    >         Thanks!
    >         Daniel
    >
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