That converts from MNI305 to MNI152 without going through the talairach itself. When FS computes Tal coords, it does so nonlinearly.
doug

On 9/11/13 12:08 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:
Hi Doug,

It's pretty awesome. So accordingly,

MNI152x = (0.9975) MNI305x + (-0.0073) MNI305y + (0.0176) MNI305z + (-0.0429) * 1 MNI152y = (0.0146) MNI305x + (1.0009) MNI305y + (-0.0024) MNI305z + (1.5496) * 1 MNI152z = (-0.0130) MNI305 + (-0.0093) MNI305y + (0.9971) MNI305z + (1.1840) * 1

The last row of the M (i.e., [-0.0429 1.5496 1.1840]') looks like some sort of offset to me, correct?

In other words, we are obtaining MNI305 first, Freesurfer convert that to TAL by default (question: is it done linearly or non-linearly?), and then we can manually convert it to MNI152 also.

Thanks so much!
Daniel

--
Yung-Jui "Daniel" Yang, PhD
Postdoctoral Researcher
Yale Child Study Center
New Haven, CT
(203) 737-5454

On 9/10/13 6:52 PM, "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:

    Hi Yang, I've computed a matrix that should do the trick. If you
    are in
    matlab, then

    M = [    0.9975   -0.0073    0.0176   -0.0429
         0.0146    1.0009   -0.0024    1.5496
        -0.0130   -0.0093    0.9971    1.1840
              0         0         0    1.0000]
    P305 = [MNI305x MNI305y MNI305z 1]';
    P152 = M*P305

    Can you give this a shot and see if it makes sense? It will
    probably be
    hard to tell since the matrix is pretty close to identity.

    doug




    On 09/10/2013 05:17 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

        Thanks, Doug. I am really hoping to get MNI152 (because I also
        use
        fsl). Are MNI305 and MNI152 the same? How can I obtain MNI152
        coordinates?

        Best,
        Daniel

-- Yung-Jui "Daniel" Yang, PhD
        Postdoctoral Researcher
        Yale Child Study Center
        New Haven, CT
        (203) 737-5454

        On 9/10/13 5:14 PM, "Douglas N Greve"
        <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
        <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
        <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%3E>> wrote:


             It is an estimate of Tal coords from the MNI305. See

        http://imaging.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/imaging/MniTalairach

             If you want MNI305, run mri_surfcluster with --nofixmni

             doug



             On 09/10/2013 05:08 PM, Yang, Daniel wrote:

                 Hi all,

                 The output of mri_surfcluster --sum shows TalX TalY
        TalZ. I am
                 wondering if they are based on the Talairach system
        or some
                 sort of
                 MNI-Talairach system. If the latter, can you tell me
        something
                 more
                 about it? Like a webpage that describes its relationship
                 between the
                 MNI152 or the Talairach system?

                 I find it confusing because mri_surfcluster said: "INFO:
                 fixing MNI
                 talairach coordinates"

                 Thanks!
                 Daniel

                 --
                 Yung-Jui "Daniel" Yang, PhD
                 Postdoctoral Researcher
                 Yale Child Study Center
                 New Haven, CT
                 (203) 737-5454


        _______________________________________________
                 Freesurfer mailing list
        Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
        <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                 <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
        https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


             --
             Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
             MGH-NMR Center
        gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
        <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
             Phone Number: 617-724-2358
             Fax: 617-726-7422

             Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
             FileDrop: https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2
        www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html
             Outgoing:
        ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/

        _______________________________________________
             Freesurfer mailing list
        Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
        <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
        <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
        https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


             The information in this e-mail is intended only for the
        person to
             whom it is
             addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in
        error and
             the e-mail
             contains patient information, please contact the Partners
             Compliance HelpLine at
        http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to
             you in error
             but does not contain patient information, please contact the
             sender and properly
             dispose of the e-mail.



-- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
    MGH-NMR Center
    gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
    Phone Number: 617-724-2358
    Fax: 617-726-7422

    Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
    FileDrop: https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2
    www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html
    Outgoing:
    ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/



_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.

Reply via email to