Ok, thanks.

Then is this command below summarise the best for project on fsaverage and
smooth, according to our mails exchange :

*mri_vol2surf --mov **cbf.nii.gz --hemi lh --surf mid --o
**lh.fwhm3.fsaverage.cbf.mgh
--regheader **subj_id --surf-fwhm 3* --trgsubject fsaverage --icoorder 7
--cortex

Best regards,


-------------------------------------
Matthieu Vanhoutte, MSc
Research Engineer - Department of Neuroradiology
Regional University Hospital, Lille, France

2015-03-05 17:24 GMT+01:00 Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>:

> w format is the paint format output from your vol2surf command. We tend
> not to use either w or curv formats anymore
> On 03/05/2015 11:19 AM, Matthieu Vanhoutte wrote:
> > I don't know if we are talking about the same thing.
> >
> > In precedent mail you told me solution #1 was better :
> >
> > */# Project and smooth onto anatomical surface/* (--surf mid : mean
> > surface between pial and white)
> >
> > /mri_vol2surf --mov ///cbf.nii.gz/ --hemi lh --surf mid --o
> > lh.fwhm3.cbf.w --regheader ///subj_id/ --out_type paint --surf-fwhm 3
> >
> > mris_w_to_curv ////subj_id/ / lh ///lh.fwhm3.cbf.w/ ////lh.fwhm3.cbf//
> >
> > *# Resample cbf to fsaverage*
> >
> > mri_surf2surf --srcsubject /////subj_id/// --srchemi lh --srcsurfreg
> > sphere.reg --trgsubject fsaverage --trghemi lh --trgsurfreg sphere.reg
> > --sval /////lh.fwhm3.cbf/// --sfmt curv --noreshape --no-cortex --tval
> > lh.fwhm3.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --tfmt curv
> >
> >
> > /
> > But you told me :
> > /BTW, why are you changing format from w to curv?
> > Why use curv at all? I'd use mgz or nifti.
> >
> > /
> > At this point I don't know what this means ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Matthieu
> >
> > 2015-03-05 17:12 GMT+01:00 Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> > <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>:
> >
> >
> >     Just add --trgsubject fsaverage to the mri_vol2surf command line. Run
> >     mri_vol2surf with --help to get more info
> >
> >     On 03/05/2015 10:52 AM, Matthieu Vanhoutte wrote:
> >     > Thank you Douglas but I don't understand the solution you propose.
> >     > Could you please show me the command lines ?
> >     >
> >     > -------------------------------------
> >     > Matthieu Vanhoutte, MSc
> >     > Research Engineer - Department of Neuroradiology
> >     > Regional University Hospital, Lille, France
> >     >
> >     > 2015-03-05 16:45 GMT+01:00 Douglas N Greve
> >     <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> >     > <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> >     <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     #1 is probably better. BTW, why are you changing format from
> >     w to
> >     >     curv?
> >     >     Why use curv at all? I'd use mgz or nifti.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     On 03/05/2015 08:10 AM, Matthieu Vanhoutte wrote:
> >     >     > Thank you Doug for precisely helping me on smooth detailed
> >     command.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Concerning projection on fsaverage, is it better, worse or
> >     >     equivalent
> >     >     > to do (1) or (2) ?
> >     >     >
> >     >     > (1)
> >     >     >
> >     >     > */# Project and smooth onto anatomical surface/* (--surf
> >     mid : mean
> >     >     > surface between pial and white)
> >     >     >
> >     >     > /mri_vol2surf --mov ///cbf.nii.gz/ --hemi lh --surf mid --o
> >     >     > lh.fwhm3.cbf.w --regheader ///subj_id/ --out_type paint
> >     >     --surf-fwhm 3
> >     >     >
> >     >     > mris_w_to_curv ////subj_id/ / lh ///lh.fwhm3.cbf.w/
> >     >     ////lh.fwhm3.cbf//
> >     >     >
> >     >     > mv ${DIR}/surf/lh.fwhm${FWHM}.intensity
> >     >     > ${DIR}/ictus/lh.fwhm${FWHM}.intensity
> >     >     >
> >     >     > rm -f ${DIR}/surf/lh.fwhm${FWHM}.intensity.w
> >     >     >
> >     >     > *# Resample cbf to fsaverage*
> >     >     >
> >     >     > mri_surf2surf --srcsubject /////subj_id/// --srchemi lh
> >     --srcsurfreg
> >     >     > sphere.reg --trgsubject fsaverage --trghemi lh
> >     --trgsurfreg sphere.reg
> >     >     > --sval /////lh.fwhm3.cbf/// --sfmt curv --noreshape
> >     --no-cortex
> >     >     --tval
> >     >     > lh.fwhm3.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --tfmt curv/
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > (2)
> >     >     >
> >     >     > */# Project and smooth onto fsaverage/*
> >     >     > /mri_vol2surf --mov cbf.nii.gz --regheader
> subj_id--trgsubject
> >     >     > fsaverage --interp trilin --projfrac 0.5 --hemi lh --o
> >     >     > lh.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --noreshape --cortex --surfreg
> >     sphere.reg//
> >     >     > /
> >     >     > */# Smooth/*
> >     >     > /mris_fwhm --s fsaverage --hemi lh --smooth-only --i
> >     >     > lh.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --fwhm 3 --o
> >     lh.fwhm3.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --mask
> >     >     > brain.fsaverage.lh.mgh//
> >     >     > /
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Many thanks in advance !!
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Best regards,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > -------------------------------------
> >     >     > Matthieu Vanhoutte, MSc
> >     >     > Research Engineer - Department of Neuroradiology
> >     >     > Regional University Hospital, Lille, France
> >     >     >
> >     >     > 2015-03-02 21:13 GMT+01:00 Douglas N Greve
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> >     <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>>:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     On 03/02/2015 04:04 AM, Matthieu Vanhoutte wrote:
> >     >     >     > Dear Doug,
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Thank you for helping !
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Yes I directly used the regheader option because in
> >     the steps
> >     >     >     before I
> >     >     >     > already registered ASL maps on anatomical T1.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > The brain.fsaverage.lh.mgh come from the projection
> >     of the
> >     >     T1 brain
> >     >     >     > mask (dilated by 1) on the fsaverage.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > 1) So isn't it better to project first on the
> anatomical
> >     >     subject
> >     >     >     then
> >     >     >     > on fsaverage than what I've done ?
> >     >     >     This is what is done internally when you spec a target
> >     >     subject that is
> >     >     >     not the same as the source subject.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > 2) Smoothing with mris_fwhm is a good way with
> >     --mask option ?
> >     >     >     Yes, though I don't think that masking will have an
> effect
> >     >     the way you
> >     >     >     created the mask (everything will be in the mask). I
> >     would use
> >     >     >     --cortex
> >     >     >     to smooth only within cortex (and so exclude the
> >     medial wall).
> >     >     >     doug
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Thank you for your precious advices !
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Best regards,
> >     >     >     >
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> >     >     >     > Regional University Hospital, Lille, France
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> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     Basically looks ok. The only things that jump out
> at
> >     >     me are that
> >     >     >     >     you are using regheader (I would create a
> >     registration
> >     >     file with
> >     >     >     >     bbregister rather than assuming that there was no
> >     >     motion between
> >     >     >     >     the anatomical and the ASL). Where did
> >     >     >     brain.fsaverage.lh.mgh come
> >     >     >     >     from?
> >     >     >     >     doug
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     On 2/27/15 2:16 PM, Matthieu Vanhoutte wrote:
> >     >     >     >>     Dear Freesurfer's experts,
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>     I computed some perfusion maps from ASL data.
> These
> >     >     perfusion
> >     >     >     >>     maps were registered on anatomical T1 and I
> >     would like to
> >     >     >     make a
> >     >     >     >>     group analysis on surfaces. Please find below
> >     my actual
> >     >     >     commands
> >     >     >     >>     in order to project these volumic maps on
> fsaverage
> >     >     then smooth
> >     >     >     >>     the data projected on fsaverage :
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>     *Project CBF maps on fsaverage* :
> >     >     >     >>     /mri_vol2surf --mov cbf.nii.gz --regheader
> >     >     subj_id--trgsubject
> >     >     >     >>     fsaverage --interp trilin --projfrac 0.5 --hemi
> >     lh --o
> >     >     >     >>     lh.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --noreshape --cortex
> --surfreg
> >     >     >     sphere.reg//
> >     >     >     >>     //mri_vol2surf --mov cbf.nii.gz --regheader
> >     >     subj_id--trgsubject
> >     >     >     >>     fsaverage --interp trilin --projfrac 0.5 --hemi
> >     rh --o
> >     >     >     >>     rh.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --noreshape --cortex
> --surfreg
> >     >     sphere.reg/
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>     *Smooth the data projected on fsaverage (native
> ASL
> >     >     data size
> >     >     >     >>     voxel of 3mm)* :
> >     >     >     >>     /mris_fwhm --s fsaverage --hemi lh
> >     --smooth-only --i
> >     >     >     >>     lh.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --fwhm 3 --o
> >     >     lh.fwhm3.fsaverage.cbf.mgh
> >     >     >     >>     --mask brain.fsaverage.lh.mgh//
> >     >     >     >>     //mris_fwhm --s fsaverage --hemi rh
> >     --smooth-only --i
> >     >     >     >>     rh.fsaverage.cbf.mgh --fwhm 3 --o
> >     >     rh.fwhm3.fsaverage.cbf.mgh
> >     >     >     >>     --mask brain.fsaverage.rh.mgh/
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>     Could you advise me on these two steps and tell me
> >     >     first if
> >     >     >     this
> >     >     >     >>     is the best way to project CBF maps on
> >     fsaverage, then to
> >     >     >     smooth
> >     >     >     >>     the data on surfaces ? Is my process could be
> >     improved ?
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>     Best regards,
> >     >     >     >>     --
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> >     MGH-NMR Center
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> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> MGH-NMR Center
> gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
> Fax: 617-726-7422
>
> Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
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