Hello Doug,
Sure. Here are my  new fsgd file and new contrast matrix ( matrix is the
same as the old one).
Best,
Paul
GroupDescriptorFile 1
Title MOT
Class Group1
Class Group2
Variables Age Education Firstscore Secondscore Thirdscore Averagescore
Input 01053p/fsdir Group1 -0.96 -0.17 1.86 1.97 2.01 2.14
Input 01054p/fsdir Group1 0.17 0.29 -0.56 -0.40 0.11 -0.26
Input 01061p/fsdir Group1 -0.05 0.75 -0.70 -0.53 0.17 -0.33
Input 01062p/fsdir Group1 -1.19 -1.10 -0.56 0.06 0.25 -0.05
Input 01074p/fsdir Group1 -0.68 -1.10 0.08 0.21 0.48 0.31
Input 01080p/fsdir Group1 -0.68 1.21 -0.18 0.59 0.40 0.32
Input 01099p/fsdir Group1 -0.17 0.29 -0.47 0.29 0.48 0.16
Input 01101p/fsdir Group1 -1.13 -0.63 -0.10 0.88 0.64 0.55
Input 01102p/fsdir Group1 1.03 0.29 -0.18 0.21  0.56 0.26
Input 01121p/fsdir Group1 -0.68 1.21 -0.47 -0.10 -0.29 -0.31
Input 01127p/fsdir Group1 0.34 0.29 -0.76 0.06 0.91 0.18
Input 01128p/fsdir Group1 -1.08 0.29 1.57 1.97 1.32 1.74
Input 01130p/fsdir Group1 -1.02 0.29 1.34 0.48 1.01 1.03
Input 01131p/fsdir Group1 -1.19 -1.10 1.46 1.70 2.01 1.92
Input 01141p/fsdir Group1 -1.30 -1.56 -0.10 0.14 0.33 0.16
Input 1044pp/fsdir Group1 0.63 0.29 -0.27 1.33 1.12 0.86
Input 1053pp/fsdir Group1 0.23 0.29 0.54 0.69 0.75 0.73
Input 1058pp/fsdir Group1 2.16 -1.56 -1.22 0.21 0.02 -0.30
Input 1060pp/fsdir Group1 0.91 -1.10 -1.25 -1.09 -0.88 -1.15
Input 01047p/fsdir Group2 0.57 1.21 0.25 -0.26 -0.41 -0.19
Input 01075p/fsdir Group2 -1.13 -0.17 0.25 -0.53 -1.11 -0.59
Input 01077p/fsdir Group2 0.46 0.29 -1.74 -1.83 -1.63 -1.89
Input 01091p/fsdir Group2 -0.96 0.29 1.57 0.48 0.17 0.73
Input 01096p/fsdir Group2 -1.3 -2.02 1.34 0.59 0.11 0.67
Input 01113p/fsdir Group2 0.63 1.21 -0.82 -0.93 -1.11 -1.06
Input 01124p/fsdir Group2 0.17 1.21 0.85 -0.40 -0.55 -0.11
Input 01134p/fsdir Group2 1.08 0.29 -0.62 -1.17 -1.11 -1.08
Input 1004pp/fsdir Group2 0.34 1.67 -0.62 -0.66 -0.88 -0.81
Input 1040pp/fsdir Group2 1.37 -1.10 -0.33 -1.30 -1.40 -1.16
Input 1043pp/fsdir Group2 0.51 0.29 1.57 -0.02 -0.51 0.26
Input 1064pp/fsdir Group2 2.16 -1.56 -1.83 -2.47 -2.14 -2.36
Input 1067pp/fsdir Group2 0.74 1.21 0.08 -0.18 -0.80 -0.39

New Contrast Matrix

first contrast matrix

1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

group1 greater than group 2 regressing out age, education, first, second,
third and average

second constrast matrix

-1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

group 2 greater than group 1 regressing out age, education, first, second,
third and average

third contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0

group 1 showing increasing correlation with first score compared to group 2

fourth contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0

group2 showing showing increasing correlation with first score compared to
group 1

fifth contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5 0 0 0 0

group1 showing showing increasing correlation with second score compared to
group 2

sixth contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5 0 0 0 0

group2 showing showing increasing correlation with second score compared to
group 1

seventh contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5 0 0

group1 showing showing increasing correlation with third score compared to
group 2

eighth contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5 0 0

group2 showing showing increasing correlation with third score compared to
group 1

ninety contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5

group1 showing showing increasing correlation with average score compared
to group 2

tenth contrast matrix

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5

group2 showing showing increasing correlation with average score compared
to group 1



On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Douglas Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> Can you send your new fsgd file and new design matrix?
>
> On 7/24/16 6:06 PM, miracle ozzoude wrote:
>
> Hello Doug or Bruce,
> I demeaned and normalize like you suggested but I'm still getting the same
> results. I created a new fsgd file using the demeaned and normalized
> variables (n = (x-mean)/std(x). Any reason why? Thank you very much.
> Paul
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Douglas N Greve <
> gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> Try demeaning and normalizing your continuous covariates in the FSGD file.
>>
>> On 07/22/2016 06:17 PM, miracle ozzoude wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello doug,
>> >
>> > while running the mir_glmfit problem, i encountered this problem “
>> >
>> > INFO: DeMeanFlag keyword not found, DeMeaning will NOT be done.
>> >
>> > Continuous Variable Means (all subjects)
>> >
>> > 0 Age 39.9375 17.3312
>> >
>> > 1 Education 15.5625 1.99902
>> >
>> > 2 Firstscore 1.03375 0.341785
>> >
>> > 3 Secondscore 1.03906 0.370678
>> >
>> > 4 Thirdscore 1.13844 0.4768
>> >
>> > 5 Averagescore 1.07375 0.364046
>> >
>> > Class Means of each Continuous Variable
>> >
>> > 1 Group1  35.6316  15.0526   1.0342 1.2111   1.4289   1.2305
>> >
>> > 2 Group2  46.2308  16.3077   1.0331 0.7877   0.7138   0.8446
>> >
>> > INFO: gd2mtx_method is dods
>> >
>> > Reading source surface
>> > /Users/paul/Desktop/improvervsdeclinermri/fsaverage/surf/lh.white
>> >
>> > Number of vertices 163842
>> >
>> > Number of faces    327680
>> >
>> > Total area         65416.648438
>> >
>> > AvgVtxArea       0.399267
>> >
>> > AvgVtxDist       0.721953
>> >
>> > StdVtxDist       0.195470
>> >
>> > $Id: mri_glmfit.c,v 1.196.2.6 2011/05/05 20:54:25 greve Exp $
>> >
>> > cwd /Users/paul/Desktop/improvervsdeclinermri
>> >
>> > cmdline mri_glmfit --y lh.new.MOT.thickness.10B.mgh --fsgd
>> > new.MOT.fsgd dods --C new.firstmatrix.mtx --C new.secondmatrix.mtx --C
>> > new.thirdmatrix.mtx --C new.fourthmatrix.mtx --C new.fifthmatrix.mtx
>> > --C new.sixthmatrix.mtx --C new.seventhmatrix.mtx --C
>> > new.eightmatrix.mtx --C new.ninethmatrix.mtx --C new.tenthmatrix.mtx
>> > --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir lh.new.MOT.glmdir
>> >
>> > sysname  Darwin
>> >
>> > hostname TC-CT-LAB4-iMAC.local
>> >
>> > machine  x86_64
>> >
>> > user     paul
>> >
>> > FixVertexAreaFlag = 1
>> >
>> > UseMaskWithSmoothing     1
>> >
>> > OneSampleGroupMean 0
>> >
>> > y /Users/paul/Desktop/improvervsdeclinermri/lh.new.MOT.thickness.10B.mgh
>> >
>> > logyflag 0
>> >
>> > usedti  0
>> >
>> > FSGD new.MOT.fsgd
>> >
>> > labelmask
>> >
>> /Users/paul/Desktop/improvervsdeclinermri/fsaverage/label/lh.cortex.label
>> >
>> > maskinv 0
>> >
>> > glmdir lh.new.MOT.glmdir
>> >
>> > IllCondOK 0
>> >
>> > ReScaleX 1
>> >
>> > DoFFx 0
>> >
>> > Creating output directory lh.new.MOT.glmdir
>> >
>> > Loading y from
>> > /Users/paul/Desktop/improvervsdeclinermri/lh.new.MOT.thickness.10B.mgh
>> >
>> > INFO: gd2mtx_method is dods
>> >
>> > Saving design matrix to lh.new.MOT.glmdir/Xg.dat
>> >
>> > Normalized matrix condition is 1.27568e+06
>> >
>> > Design matrix ------------------
>> >
>> > 1.000   0.000   23.000   0.000 15.000   0.000   1.680   0.000
>> > 1.780   0.000   2.110 0.000   1.860   0.000;
>> >
>> >  1.000   0.000   43.000   0.000 16.000   0.000   0.840   0.000
>> > 0.890   0.000   1.190 0.000   0.970   0.000;
>> >
>> >  1.000   0.000   39.000   0.000 17.000   0.000   0.790   0.000
>> > 0.840   0.000   1.220 0.000   0.950   0.000;
>> >
>> >  1.000   0.000   19.000   0.000 13.000   0.000   0.840   0.000
>> > 1.060   0.000   1.260 0.000   1.050   0.000;
>> >
>> >  1.000   0.000   28.000   0.000 13.000   0.000   1.060   0.000
>> > 1.120   0.000   1.370 0.000   1.180   0.000
>> >
>> >  …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………...
>> >
>> > ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno = 1.27568e+06
>> >
>> > --------------------------------
>> >
>> > Possible problem with experimental design:
>> >
>> > Check for duplicate entries and/or lack of range of
>> >
>> > continuous variables within a class.
>> >
>> > If you seek help with this problem, make sure to send:
>> >
>> >   1. Your command line:
>> >
>> >     mri_glmfit --y lh.new.MOT.thickness.10B.mgh --fsgd new.MOT.fsgd
>> > dods --C new.firstmatrix.mtx —C new.secondmatrix.mtx --C
>> > new.thirdmatrix.mtx --C new.fourthmatrix.mtx --C new.fifthmatrix.mtx
>> > --C new.sixthmatrix.mtx --C new.seventhmatrix.mtx --C
>> > new.eightmatrix.mtx --C new.ninethmatrix.mtx --C new.tenthmatrix.mtx
>> > --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir lh.new.MOT.glmdir
>> >
>> >   2. The FSGD file (if using one)
>> >
>> >   3. And the design matrix above”
>> >
>> > Below are my fsgd file and contrast matrix. I can’t add DeMeanFlag 1
>> > because I am using dods and interested in group difference. Also, none
>> > of the responses from people with similar error helped me. I am using
>> > version 5.1
>> >
>> > Thank you very much.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > GroupDescriptorFile 1
>> >
>> > Title MOT
>> >
>> > Class Group1
>> >
>> > Class Group2
>> >
>> > Variables                       Age   Education       Firstscore
>> > Secondscore Thirdscore      Averagescore
>> >
>> > Input 01053p/fsdir Group1       23   15              1.68
>> > 1.78            2.11       1.86
>> >
>> > Input 01054p/fsdir Group1       43   16              0.84
>> > 0.89            1.19       0.97
>> >
>> > Input 01061p/fsdir Group1       39   17              0.79
>> > 0.84            1.22       0.95
>> >
>> > Input 01062p/fsdir Group1       19   13              0.84
>> > 1.06            1.26       1.05
>> >
>> > Input 01074p/fsdir Group1       28   13              1.06
>> > 1.12            1.37       1.18
>> >
>> > Input 01080p/fsdir Group1       28   18              0.97
>> > 1.26            1.33       1.19
>> >
>> > Input 01099p/fsdir Group1       37   16              0.87
>> > 1.15            1.37       1.13
>> >
>> > Input 01101p/fsdir Group1       20   14              1.00
>> > 1.37            1.45       1.27
>> >
>> > Input 01102p/fsdir Group1       58   16              0.97
>> > 1.12            1.41       1.27
>> >
>> > Input 01121p/fsdir Group1       28   18              0.87
>> > 1.00            1.00       0.96
>> >
>> > Input 01127p/fsdir Group1       46   16              0.77
>> > 1.06            1.58       1.14
>> >
>> > Input 01128p/fsdir Group1       21   16              1.58
>> > 1.78            1.78       1.71
>> >
>> > Input 01130p/fsdir Group1       22   16              1.50
>> > 1.22            1.63       1.45
>> >
>> > Input 01131p/fsdir Group1       19   13              1.54
>> > 1.68            2.11       1.78
>> >
>> > Input 01141p/fsdir Group1       17   12              1.00
>> > 1.09            1.30       1.13
>> >
>> > Input 1044pp/fsdir Group1       51   16              0.94
>> > 1.54            1.68       1.39
>> >
>> > Input 1053pp/fsdir Group1       44   16              1.22
>> > 1.30            1.50       1.34
>> >
>> > Input 1058pp/fsdir Group1       78   12              0.61
>> > 1.12            1.15       0.96
>> >
>> > Input 1060pp/fsdir Group1       56   13              0.60
>> > 0.63            0.71       0.65
>> >
>> > Input 01047p/fsdir Group2       50   18              1.12
>> > 0.94            0.94       1.00
>> >
>> > Input 01075p/fsdir Group2       20   15              1.12
>> > 0.84            0.60       0.85
>> >
>> > Input 01077p/fsdir Group2       48   16              0.43
>> > 0.35            0.35       0.38
>> >
>> > Input 01091p/fsdir Group2       23   16              1.58
>> > 1.22            1.22       1.34
>> >
>> > Input 01096p/fsdir Group2       17   17              1.50
>> > 1.26            1.19       1.32
>> >
>> > Input 01113p/fsdir Group2       51   18              0.75
>> > 0.69            0.60       0.68
>> >
>> > Input 01124p/fsdir Group2       43   18              1.33
>> > 0.89            0.87       1.03
>> >
>> > Input 01134p/fsdir Group2       59   16              0.82
>> > 0.60            0.60       0.67
>> >
>> > Input 1004pp/fsdir Group2       46   19              0.82
>> > 0.79            0.71       0.77
>> >
>> > Input 1040pp/fsdir Group2       64   13              0.92
>> > 0.55            0.46       0.64
>> >
>> > Input 1043pp/fsdir Group2       49   16              1.58
>> > 1.03            0.89       1.17
>> >
>> > Input 1064pp/fsdir Group2       78   12              0.40
>> > 0.11            0.10       0.20
>> >
>> > Input 1067pp/fsdir Group2       53   18              1.06
>> > 0.97            0.75       0.93
>> >
>> >
>> > first contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
>> >
>> > group1 greater than group 2 regressing out age, education, first,
>> > second, third and average
>> >
>> > second constrast matrix
>> >
>> > -1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
>> >
>> > group 2 greater than group 1 regressing out age, education, first,
>> > second, third and average
>> >
>> > third contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0
>> >
>> > group 1 showing increasing correlation with first score compared to
>> > group 2
>> >
>> > fourth contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0
>> >
>> > group2 showing showing increasing correlation with first score
>> > compared to group 1
>> >
>> > fifth contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5 0 0 0 0
>> >
>> > group1 showing showing increasing correlation with second score
>> > compared to group 2
>> >
>> > sixth contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5 0 0 0 0
>> >
>> > group2 showing showing increasing correlation with second score
>> > compared to group 1
>> >
>> > seventh contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5 0 0
>> >
>> > group1 showing showing increasing correlation with third score
>> > compared to group 2
>> >
>> > eighth contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5 0 0
>> >
>> > group2 showing showing increasing correlation with third score
>> > compared to group 1
>> >
>> > ninety contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 -0.5
>> >
>> > group1 showing showing increasing correlation with average score
>> > compared to group 2
>> >
>> > tenth contrast matrix
>> >
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5 0.5
>> >
>> > group2 showing showing increasing correlation with average score
>> > compared to group 1
>> >
>> >
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