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Hi Douglas

Thanks for the response.

No, some of the registrations are fine. Some are close, but not perfect,
while others are very bad.

I've checked the subjectname file for some subjects with poor registration
(eg 20_101), and they are correct.

Thanks,
Keri

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 8:57 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <
dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Are you saying that all of them have bad registrations? Some of them
> (eg, 20_1, 20_10) look like they should be good. Others (eg, 20_101)
> look like they could be bad. For the bad ones, are you totally sure that
> the subjetname file has the correct name of the subject?
>
> On 1/21/19 3:19 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
> >
> >         External Email - Use Caution
> >
> > Hi Douglas
> >
> > Thank you for your reply.
> >
> > I'm using freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v6.0.1-f53a55a
> >
> > I am using whole brain data. The functional and structural images were
> > acquired in different sessions on the same day, I don't know if that
> > complicated things? Each subject has 2 runs of the same task.
> >
> > This is what I get after running the command in the format of
> > tkregister-sess -s sess01 -s sess02 -s sess03 -fsd bold -per-run -bbr-sum
> >
> > 20_1       013 0.5155
> > 20_1       014 0.5090
> > 20_10      013 0.5247
> > 20_10      014 0.5229
> > 20_100     038 0.8420
> > 20_100     040 0.8443
> > 20_101     008 0.9052
> > 20_101     010 0.9289
> > 20_102     058 0.6924
> > 20_102     059 0.6902
> > 20_103     045 0.9778
> > 20_103     046 0.9931
> > 20_104     010 0.9324
> > 20_104     012 0.9413
> > 20_105     013 0.8754
> > 20_105     014 0.8937
> > 20_106     047 0.4433
> > 20_106     048 0.4377
> > 20_107     008 0.9178
> > 20_107     010 0.9238
> > 20_11      013 0.7631
> > 20_11      014 0.7615
> > 20_110     048 0.7687
> > 20_110     049 0.7549
> > 20_112     013 0.8821
> > 20_112     014 0.9161
> > 20_113     052 0.7689
> > 20_113     053 0.7757
> > 20_116     046 1.0072
> > 20_116     047 1.0256
> > 20_117     008 0.7742
> > 20_117     010 0.7826
> > 20_119     013 0.7929
> > 20_119     014 0.7854
> > 20_120     048 0.5090
> > 20_120     049 0.4973
> > 20_126     047 0.8285
> > 20_126     048 0.8281
> > 20_128     046 0.9580
> > 20_128     047 0.9314
> > 20_130     047 0.9439
> > 20_130     048 0.9425
> > 20_132     047 0.8550
> > 20_132     048 0.8558
> > 20_134_1   013 0.5716
> > 20_134_1   015 0.5744
> > 20_135     011 0.8357
> > 20_135     012 0.8401
> > 20_136     044 0.9995
> > 20_136     045 0.9604
> > 20_137     047 0.7922
> > 20_137     048 0.7990
> > 20_142     047 0.5282
> > 20_142     048 0.5278
> > 20_144     013 0.8755
> > 20_144     014 0.8838
> > 20_146     047 0.7997
> > 20_146     048 0.7895
> > 20_149     049 0.9251
> > 20_149     050 0.9408
> > 20_151     048 0.5905
> > 20_151     049 0.5519
> > 20_152     048 0.9024
> > 20_152     049 0.9021
> > 20_155     048 0.5285
> > 20_155     049 0.5324
> > 20_156     048 0.8883
> > 20_156     049 0.9267
> > 20_158     048 0.5404
> > 20_158     049 0.5297
> > 20_159     048 0.8021
> > 20_160     013 0.5002
> > 20_160     014 0.4942
> > 20_162     047 0.5401
> > 20_162     048 0.5401
> > 20_164     047 0.8944
> > 20_164     048 0.8940
> > 20_165     047 0.9163
> > 20_165     048 0.9077
> > 20_166     045 0.8787
> > 20_166     046 0.8848
> > 20_167     050 0.8428
> > 20_167     051 0.8442
> > 20_169     049 0.9407
> > 20_169     050 0.9462
> > 20_170     047 0.8921
> > 20_170     048 0.9113
> > 20_171     013 0.9060
> > 20_171     014 0.9060
> > 20_173     048 0.9193
> > 20_173     049 0.9141
> > 20_177     048 0.8695
> > 20_177     049 0.8600
> > 20_178     048 1.0327
> > 20_178     049 0.8979
> > 20_180     045 0.7999
> > 20_180     046 0.8002
> > 20_182     047 0.9135
> > 20_182     048 0.9130
> > 20_184     048 0.9842
> > 20_184     049 0.9960
> > 20_185     046 0.9640
> > 20_185     047 0.9514
> > 20_187     048 0.8134
> > 20_187     049 0.8082
> > 20_189     047 1.0063
> > 20_189     048 0.9701
> > 20_19      013 0.8485
> > 20_19      014 0.8534
> > 20_190     047 0.9279
> > 20_190     048 0.9169
> > 20_191     046 0.9586
> > 20_191     047 0.9751
> > 20_192     049 0.8544
> > 20_193     013 0.9084
> > 20_193     014 0.9110
> > 20_194     047 0.9220
> > 20_194     048 0.9166
> > 20_195     048 0.9552
> > 20_195     049 0.9508
> > 20_196     047 0.9098
> > 20_196     048 0.9011
> > 20_199     048 0.8569
> > 20_199     049 0.8567
> > 20_20      013 0.8750
> > 20_20      014 0.8749
> > 20_201     048 0.8864
> > 20_201     049 1.0040
> > 20_202     048 0.8542
> > 20_202     049 0.8516
> > 20_203     048 1.0267
> > 20_203     049 1.0060
> > 20_204     048 0.8513
> > 20_204     049 0.8588
> > 20_208     014 0.9130
> > 20_208     015 0.9329
> > 20_209     047 1.0020
> > 20_209     048 1.0120
> > 20_21      027 0.9747
> > 20_21      028 1.0081
> > 20_210     048 0.8607
> > 20_210     049 0.8564
> > 20_220     047 0.8888
> > 20_220     048 0.8903
> > 20_222     047 0.9998
> > 20_222     048 0.8597
> > 20_224     013 0.8122
> > 20_224     014 0.8107
> > 20_226     013 0.7855
> > 20_226     014 0.7845
> > 20_227     013 0.9372
> > 20_227     014 0.9818
> > 20_231     047 0.8355
> > 20_231     048 0.8506
> > 20_232     048 0.9730
> > 20_232     049 0.9591
> > 20_234     048 0.9357
> > 20_234     049 0.9429
> > 20_235     048 0.7528
> > 20_235     049 0.7483
> > 20_236     047 0.8997
> > 20_236     048 0.8922
> > 20_239     049 0.8920
> > 20_239     050 0.8817
> > 20_24      013 0.8197
> > 20_24      014 0.8280
> > 20_240     047 0.9109
> > 20_240     048 0.9231
> > 20_243     013 0.8227
> > 20_243     014 0.8333
> > 20_245     045 0.8620
> > 20_245     046 0.8635
> > 20_246     047 0.8236
> > 20_246     048 0.8269
> > 20_248     053 0.6015
> > 20_248     054 0.6091
> > 20_25      013 0.8676
> > 20_25      014 0.8658
> > 20_250     048 0.9124
> > 20_250     050 0.9090
> > 20_251     048 0.9061
> > 20_251     049 0.9078
> > 20_277     008 0.7923
> > 20_277     010 0.7970
> > 20_278     048 0.4834
> > 20_278     049 0.4845
> > 20_279     008 0.4363
> > 20_279     010 0.4370
> > 20_281     013 0.8672
> > 20_281     014 0.8647
> > 20_282     043 0.8884
> > 20_282     044 0.8886
> > 20_284     052 0.9152
> > 20_284     053 0.9118
> > 20_285     047 0.9546
> > 20_285     048 0.9517
> > 20_286     008 0.9607
> > 20_286     010 0.9596
> > 20_287     055 0.8976
> > 20_287     056 0.8756
> > 20_288     047 1.0127
> > 20_288     048 1.0307
> > 20_290     048 1.0089
> > 20_290     049 1.0391
> > 20_293     052 0.7792
> > 20_293     053 0.7772
> > 20_3       017 0.8530
> > 20_3       018 0.8501
> > 20_40      013 0.9392
> > 20_40      014 0.9787
> > 20_41      013 0.9562
> > 20_41      014 0.9547
> > 20_44      013 0.8725
> > 20_44      014 0.8872
> > 20_51      013 0.9420
> > 20_51      014 0.9417
> > 20_55      013 0.9796
> > 20_55      014 0.9837
> > 20_58      013 0.9677
> > 20_58      014 0.9506
> > 20_59      013 0.9180
> > 20_59      014 0.9157
> > 20_69      013 0.9265
> > 20_69      014 0.9283
> > 20_74      014 0.9476
> > 20_74      015 0.9201
> > 20_78      012 0.9822
> > 20_78      013 0.9501
> > 20_81      013 0.8664
> > 20_81      014 0.8693
> > 20_84      013 0.8827
> > 20_84      014 0.9196
> > 20_86      016 0.9138
> > 20_86      017 0.9152
> > 20_88      039 0.9905
> > 20_88      041 1.0168
> > 20_90      049 0.8263
> > 20_90      050 1.0208
> > 20_95      008 0.8892
> > 20_95      010 0.9359
> > 20_96      013 0.9191
> > 20_96      014 0.9326
> > 20_97      008 0.9569
> > 20_97      010 0.9731
> > 20_98      008 0.9317
> > 20_98      012 0.9409
> > 20_PHRU    047 0.7797
> > 20_PHRU    048 0.7894
> >
> > So the registration is really poor. I've visually checked the
> > registration for many of the subjects, and the functional data isn't
> > left-right reversed, I've also checked some of the subjectname files
> > (which I created by running a script) and they are correct.
> >
> > I'm new to Freesurfer, so maybe I've made a mistake somewhere? I'm
> > been following these instructions:
> >
> > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastTutorial
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Keri
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 6:44 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
> > <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >     What version of FS are you using? version 6 initializes with
> >     mri_coreg (the FS equivalent of spm_coreg). On whole-brain data,
> >     I've found this to be very robust. Is your data whole-brain?
> >
> >     On 1/18/19 5:10 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
> >>
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> >>
> >>     Hi
> >>
> >>     I have a problem very similar to this one:
> >>
> >>
> https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg23206.html
> >>
> >>     I've tried the suggestions given there, but it didn't fix my
> problem.
> >>
> >>     I'm running the FSFAST preproc-sess stream and the quality of the
> >>     registration is very poor for most of the subjects.
> >>
> >>     I've tried initializing the registration differently, using
> >>     bbregister with --init-fsl, --init-spm and init-header, which
> >>     didn't improve the results at all.
> >>
> >>     I've also tried register-sess with --init-fsl, --init-spm and
> >>     init-header, as well as spmregister-sess and fslregister-sess.
> >>
> >>     Is there anything else I could try?
> >>
> >>     Using the SPM GUI, the registration was fine, so I thought that
> >>     spmregister-sess would have been an improvement, but it wasn't.
> >>     Is there anyway I can import the registration obtained using the
> >>     SPM GUI?
> >>
> >>     Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >>     Thanks,
> >>     Keri
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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