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I meant some are nearly perfect.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 11:49 AM Keri Woods <keri.wo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Douglas
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> No, some of the registrations are fine. Some are close, but not perfect,
> while others are very bad.
>
> I've checked the subjectname file for some subjects with poor registration
> (eg 20_101), and they are correct.
>
> Thanks,
> Keri
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 8:57 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <
> dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> Are you saying that all of them have bad registrations? Some of them
>> (eg, 20_1, 20_10) look like they should be good. Others (eg, 20_101)
>> look like they could be bad. For the bad ones, are you totally sure that
>> the subjetname file has the correct name of the subject?
>>
>> On 1/21/19 3:19 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
>> >
>> >         External Email - Use Caution
>> >
>> > Hi Douglas
>> >
>> > Thank you for your reply.
>> >
>> > I'm using freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v6.0.1-f53a55a
>> >
>> > I am using whole brain data. The functional and structural images were
>> > acquired in different sessions on the same day, I don't know if that
>> > complicated things? Each subject has 2 runs of the same task.
>> >
>> > This is what I get after running the command in the format of
>> > tkregister-sess -s sess01 -s sess02 -s sess03 -fsd bold -per-run
>> -bbr-sum
>> >
>> > 20_1       013 0.5155
>> > 20_1       014 0.5090
>> > 20_10      013 0.5247
>> > 20_10      014 0.5229
>> > 20_100     038 0.8420
>> > 20_100     040 0.8443
>> > 20_101     008 0.9052
>> > 20_101     010 0.9289
>> > 20_102     058 0.6924
>> > 20_102     059 0.6902
>> > 20_103     045 0.9778
>> > 20_103     046 0.9931
>> > 20_104     010 0.9324
>> > 20_104     012 0.9413
>> > 20_105     013 0.8754
>> > 20_105     014 0.8937
>> > 20_106     047 0.4433
>> > 20_106     048 0.4377
>> > 20_107     008 0.9178
>> > 20_107     010 0.9238
>> > 20_11      013 0.7631
>> > 20_11      014 0.7615
>> > 20_110     048 0.7687
>> > 20_110     049 0.7549
>> > 20_112     013 0.8821
>> > 20_112     014 0.9161
>> > 20_113     052 0.7689
>> > 20_113     053 0.7757
>> > 20_116     046 1.0072
>> > 20_116     047 1.0256
>> > 20_117     008 0.7742
>> > 20_117     010 0.7826
>> > 20_119     013 0.7929
>> > 20_119     014 0.7854
>> > 20_120     048 0.5090
>> > 20_120     049 0.4973
>> > 20_126     047 0.8285
>> > 20_126     048 0.8281
>> > 20_128     046 0.9580
>> > 20_128     047 0.9314
>> > 20_130     047 0.9439
>> > 20_130     048 0.9425
>> > 20_132     047 0.8550
>> > 20_132     048 0.8558
>> > 20_134_1   013 0.5716
>> > 20_134_1   015 0.5744
>> > 20_135     011 0.8357
>> > 20_135     012 0.8401
>> > 20_136     044 0.9995
>> > 20_136     045 0.9604
>> > 20_137     047 0.7922
>> > 20_137     048 0.7990
>> > 20_142     047 0.5282
>> > 20_142     048 0.5278
>> > 20_144     013 0.8755
>> > 20_144     014 0.8838
>> > 20_146     047 0.7997
>> > 20_146     048 0.7895
>> > 20_149     049 0.9251
>> > 20_149     050 0.9408
>> > 20_151     048 0.5905
>> > 20_151     049 0.5519
>> > 20_152     048 0.9024
>> > 20_152     049 0.9021
>> > 20_155     048 0.5285
>> > 20_155     049 0.5324
>> > 20_156     048 0.8883
>> > 20_156     049 0.9267
>> > 20_158     048 0.5404
>> > 20_158     049 0.5297
>> > 20_159     048 0.8021
>> > 20_160     013 0.5002
>> > 20_160     014 0.4942
>> > 20_162     047 0.5401
>> > 20_162     048 0.5401
>> > 20_164     047 0.8944
>> > 20_164     048 0.8940
>> > 20_165     047 0.9163
>> > 20_165     048 0.9077
>> > 20_166     045 0.8787
>> > 20_166     046 0.8848
>> > 20_167     050 0.8428
>> > 20_167     051 0.8442
>> > 20_169     049 0.9407
>> > 20_169     050 0.9462
>> > 20_170     047 0.8921
>> > 20_170     048 0.9113
>> > 20_171     013 0.9060
>> > 20_171     014 0.9060
>> > 20_173     048 0.9193
>> > 20_173     049 0.9141
>> > 20_177     048 0.8695
>> > 20_177     049 0.8600
>> > 20_178     048 1.0327
>> > 20_178     049 0.8979
>> > 20_180     045 0.7999
>> > 20_180     046 0.8002
>> > 20_182     047 0.9135
>> > 20_182     048 0.9130
>> > 20_184     048 0.9842
>> > 20_184     049 0.9960
>> > 20_185     046 0.9640
>> > 20_185     047 0.9514
>> > 20_187     048 0.8134
>> > 20_187     049 0.8082
>> > 20_189     047 1.0063
>> > 20_189     048 0.9701
>> > 20_19      013 0.8485
>> > 20_19      014 0.8534
>> > 20_190     047 0.9279
>> > 20_190     048 0.9169
>> > 20_191     046 0.9586
>> > 20_191     047 0.9751
>> > 20_192     049 0.8544
>> > 20_193     013 0.9084
>> > 20_193     014 0.9110
>> > 20_194     047 0.9220
>> > 20_194     048 0.9166
>> > 20_195     048 0.9552
>> > 20_195     049 0.9508
>> > 20_196     047 0.9098
>> > 20_196     048 0.9011
>> > 20_199     048 0.8569
>> > 20_199     049 0.8567
>> > 20_20      013 0.8750
>> > 20_20      014 0.8749
>> > 20_201     048 0.8864
>> > 20_201     049 1.0040
>> > 20_202     048 0.8542
>> > 20_202     049 0.8516
>> > 20_203     048 1.0267
>> > 20_203     049 1.0060
>> > 20_204     048 0.8513
>> > 20_204     049 0.8588
>> > 20_208     014 0.9130
>> > 20_208     015 0.9329
>> > 20_209     047 1.0020
>> > 20_209     048 1.0120
>> > 20_21      027 0.9747
>> > 20_21      028 1.0081
>> > 20_210     048 0.8607
>> > 20_210     049 0.8564
>> > 20_220     047 0.8888
>> > 20_220     048 0.8903
>> > 20_222     047 0.9998
>> > 20_222     048 0.8597
>> > 20_224     013 0.8122
>> > 20_224     014 0.8107
>> > 20_226     013 0.7855
>> > 20_226     014 0.7845
>> > 20_227     013 0.9372
>> > 20_227     014 0.9818
>> > 20_231     047 0.8355
>> > 20_231     048 0.8506
>> > 20_232     048 0.9730
>> > 20_232     049 0.9591
>> > 20_234     048 0.9357
>> > 20_234     049 0.9429
>> > 20_235     048 0.7528
>> > 20_235     049 0.7483
>> > 20_236     047 0.8997
>> > 20_236     048 0.8922
>> > 20_239     049 0.8920
>> > 20_239     050 0.8817
>> > 20_24      013 0.8197
>> > 20_24      014 0.8280
>> > 20_240     047 0.9109
>> > 20_240     048 0.9231
>> > 20_243     013 0.8227
>> > 20_243     014 0.8333
>> > 20_245     045 0.8620
>> > 20_245     046 0.8635
>> > 20_246     047 0.8236
>> > 20_246     048 0.8269
>> > 20_248     053 0.6015
>> > 20_248     054 0.6091
>> > 20_25      013 0.8676
>> > 20_25      014 0.8658
>> > 20_250     048 0.9124
>> > 20_250     050 0.9090
>> > 20_251     048 0.9061
>> > 20_251     049 0.9078
>> > 20_277     008 0.7923
>> > 20_277     010 0.7970
>> > 20_278     048 0.4834
>> > 20_278     049 0.4845
>> > 20_279     008 0.4363
>> > 20_279     010 0.4370
>> > 20_281     013 0.8672
>> > 20_281     014 0.8647
>> > 20_282     043 0.8884
>> > 20_282     044 0.8886
>> > 20_284     052 0.9152
>> > 20_284     053 0.9118
>> > 20_285     047 0.9546
>> > 20_285     048 0.9517
>> > 20_286     008 0.9607
>> > 20_286     010 0.9596
>> > 20_287     055 0.8976
>> > 20_287     056 0.8756
>> > 20_288     047 1.0127
>> > 20_288     048 1.0307
>> > 20_290     048 1.0089
>> > 20_290     049 1.0391
>> > 20_293     052 0.7792
>> > 20_293     053 0.7772
>> > 20_3       017 0.8530
>> > 20_3       018 0.8501
>> > 20_40      013 0.9392
>> > 20_40      014 0.9787
>> > 20_41      013 0.9562
>> > 20_41      014 0.9547
>> > 20_44      013 0.8725
>> > 20_44      014 0.8872
>> > 20_51      013 0.9420
>> > 20_51      014 0.9417
>> > 20_55      013 0.9796
>> > 20_55      014 0.9837
>> > 20_58      013 0.9677
>> > 20_58      014 0.9506
>> > 20_59      013 0.9180
>> > 20_59      014 0.9157
>> > 20_69      013 0.9265
>> > 20_69      014 0.9283
>> > 20_74      014 0.9476
>> > 20_74      015 0.9201
>> > 20_78      012 0.9822
>> > 20_78      013 0.9501
>> > 20_81      013 0.8664
>> > 20_81      014 0.8693
>> > 20_84      013 0.8827
>> > 20_84      014 0.9196
>> > 20_86      016 0.9138
>> > 20_86      017 0.9152
>> > 20_88      039 0.9905
>> > 20_88      041 1.0168
>> > 20_90      049 0.8263
>> > 20_90      050 1.0208
>> > 20_95      008 0.8892
>> > 20_95      010 0.9359
>> > 20_96      013 0.9191
>> > 20_96      014 0.9326
>> > 20_97      008 0.9569
>> > 20_97      010 0.9731
>> > 20_98      008 0.9317
>> > 20_98      012 0.9409
>> > 20_PHRU    047 0.7797
>> > 20_PHRU    048 0.7894
>> >
>> > So the registration is really poor. I've visually checked the
>> > registration for many of the subjects, and the functional data isn't
>> > left-right reversed, I've also checked some of the subjectname files
>> > (which I created by running a script) and they are correct.
>> >
>> > I'm new to Freesurfer, so maybe I've made a mistake somewhere? I'm
>> > been following these instructions:
>> >
>> > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastTutorial
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Keri
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 6:44 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
>> > <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     What version of FS are you using? version 6 initializes with
>> >     mri_coreg (the FS equivalent of spm_coreg). On whole-brain data,
>> >     I've found this to be very robust. Is your data whole-brain?
>> >
>> >     On 1/18/19 5:10 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
>> >>
>> >>             External Email - Use Caution
>> >>
>> >>     Hi
>> >>
>> >>     I have a problem very similar to this one:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg23206.html
>> >>
>> >>     I've tried the suggestions given there, but it didn't fix my
>> problem.
>> >>
>> >>     I'm running the FSFAST preproc-sess stream and the quality of the
>> >>     registration is very poor for most of the subjects.
>> >>
>> >>     I've tried initializing the registration differently, using
>> >>     bbregister with --init-fsl, --init-spm and init-header, which
>> >>     didn't improve the results at all.
>> >>
>> >>     I've also tried register-sess with --init-fsl, --init-spm and
>> >>     init-header, as well as spmregister-sess and fslregister-sess.
>> >>
>> >>     Is there anything else I could try?
>> >>
>> >>     Using the SPM GUI, the registration was fine, so I thought that
>> >>     spmregister-sess would have been an improvement, but it wasn't.
>> >>     Is there anyway I can import the registration obtained using the
>> >>     SPM GUI?
>> >>
>> >>     Thanks for your help.
>> >>
>> >>     Thanks,
>> >>     Keri
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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