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On 3/17/2020 11:31 AM, Varun Chandran wrote:

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Dear FS experts,

I am trying to run the cluster-wise correction by using permutation based multiple comparison. For this, as you would know, we use: mri_glmfit-sim

In attempt to this, I tried running different options

mri_glmfit --y lh.thickness.AT.10B.mgh --fsgd CT91_AT6.fsgd doss --C Contrast91.txt --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir glmdirlh_lat3.glmdir

mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdir${i}_lat3.glmdir --cache 1.3 pos --cwp 0.05 --3spaces

Since, there was recommendations in this forum to use --perm for 1.3, I did so

mri_glmfit --y lh.thickness.AT.10B.mgh --X design_91subjs.txt --C Contrast_CT91.txt --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir glmdirlh_design.glmdir

mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdir_design.glmdir --perm 1000 1.3 pos --cwp 0.05 --3spaces

However, it is displayed an error message 'design matrix is not orthogonal', though I used CT91_AT.fsgd and not the design matrix --X option.

Despite that, I tried again starting from design matrix with the mri_glmfit, it was ok. For the same I used, --perm for the mri-glmfit-sim. But, it was a same orthogonalisation error message.

I am also attaching my Group Desscriptor file: .fsgd, design matrix: GLM_all_Scan_Mim_91subjs.txt and the contrast.txt files for your reference.

It would be great, if anyone could please help sort out this issue. Thanks !

kind regards,
Varun



On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:40 PM Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:

    It looks like you are using gender as a continuous variable. You
    should set up two classes, one for male one for female. You can
    then test for the AT slope with a contrast of
    0 0 0 0 0.5 0.5
    you don't need separate pos and neg contrasts

    For mri_glmfit-sim, a threshold of 1.3 (p<.05) is way too liberal
    for the MCZ simulation. I would use permutation. See
    
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/MultipleComparisonsV6.0Perm

    On 3/12/2020 6:30 AM, Varun Chandran wrote:

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    Dear FS experts,

    I am looking at the relationship between the cortical thickness
    and a behaviour measure, while controlling for the effects of age
    and gender. In this analysis, I am using CT_AT.fsgd,
    contrast_pos.txt and a contrast_neg.txt.

    GroupDescriptorFile 1
    Title Autistictraits
    Class AT
    Variables                         Age     Gender  AT

    Input   Con_P001   AT   -4.142    -0.428    21
    Input   Con_P002   AT   -8.142    -0.428    31

    My separate two contrast files:

    Contrast_pos.txt      0          0           0      1
    Contrast_neg.txt      0          0           0      -1

    mri_glmfit --y lh.thickness.AT.10B.mgh --fsgd CT91_4.fsgd doss
    --C Contrast91_pos.txt --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir
    glmdirlhposlat.glmdir

    mri_glmfit --y lh.thickness.AT.10B.mgh --fsgd CT91_4.fsgd doss
    --C Contrast91_neg.txt --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir
    glmdirlhneglat.glmdir

    mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdirlhposlat.glmdir --cache 1.3 pos
    --cwp 0.05

    mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdirlhneglat.glmdir --cache 1.3 neg
    --cwp 0.05

    By changing the commands appropriately, I am looking at the right
    hemisphere too.

    Can anyone please help me to clarify, if I am applying the
    command lines correctly? Any sort of help would be very much
    appreciated. Thanks !

    best,
    Varun Arunachalam Chandran
    PhD scholar (Neurosciences)
    /School of Psychology and Clinical Language Sciences,
    University of Reading, Harry Pitt Building, /
    /Whiteknights campus, Reading-RG6 7BE,/
    /Berkshire, United Kingdom./




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