David, quick question. Is 1.5.0/1.5.1 supposed to be backwards compatible
with 1.4.3? At least a couple of people have reported that received signals
were garbled. (I recorded myself via a WebSDR earlier today and was able to
decode myself with 1.5.1, FWIW.)

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:37 AM David Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Al,
>
> I don't run the QSO.freedv.org website - you'll need to talk to  the
> maintainer.
>
> SM1000 support for 700E is possible (it's about the same CPU as 700D), if
> some one wants to work on it .... however it would be nice to get the band
> pass filter running on the SM1000 to support the clipper/compression.  To
> date we've left the BPF out of the SM1000 due to CPU, so some optimisation
> work required there.
>
> - David
> On 20/12/20 3:34 pm, Al Beard via Freetel-codec2 wrote:
>
> *Thanks David,*
>
> *I've recompiled the Codec2 library with the latest on my "parrot"
> repeater.*
> *(Fedora 30 armv7hl) (a Pi clone, Banana Pi M2 Berry)*
> *But error:*
> */data/home/alanb/bin/parrot: undefined symbol:
> freedv_get_uncorrected_errors*
>
> *I'll look into that....*
>
> *I've compiled the Ver 1.5 devel FreeDV GUI on Fedora 29 x86_64, my "main"
> box.*
>
> *We are having some good Sporadic E openings on 10m and 6m between here
> and New Zealand.*
>
> *Can we have some frequencies on the QSO.freedv.org
> <http://QSO.freedv.org> website for bands 17m and up such that there*
> *is a "standard" on each band?*
>
> *Also, is there a possibility the SM1000 can run mode 700E?*
>
> *Alan VK2ZIW*
>
>
> *On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 13:50:33 +1030, David Rowe wrote*
> > Thanks Walter and Mooneer.  I'd be interested to know the RMS power you
> can develop with 700D/E with the clipper option.
> > - David
> >
> > On 20/12/20 10:30 am, Mooneer Salem wrote:
> >
>
>
> > Looks like it's working reasonably well, though the 20 meter band fell
> out shortly after we all got it installed. More testing tomorrow for sure.
> :)
> >
> > -Mooneer K6AQ
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:26 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
>>
>> Have it loaded and running now.
>> >
>> > Working on a couple others as I type to get some end to end testing.
>> >
>> > Many thanks David, and best of the holidays.
>> >
>> > Walter/K5WH
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Rowe <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:34 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 1.5 - 700E and OFDM compression
>> >
>> > I've been working on a new FreeDV 700E mode, and some compression for
>> FreeDV 700D and 700E to increase the average power.  A Christmas present
>> for you to play with
>> >
>> > 700E is designed to handle fast fading like 700C, but like 700D has
>> powerful FEC. My bench tests indicate 700C & E are equivalent on moderate
>> fading channels (2Hz dopdler/2ms spread), but on very fast fading (4Hz/4ms)
>> 700E does better - 700C & D fall over. 700D works better at lower SNRs on
>> slow fading channels.
>> >
>> > I've also been testing against compressed SSB, which as Helmut suggests
>> is pretty hard to beat, as it's so robust to fading. However 700E is
>> hanging on quite well with fast fading, and becomes noise free as the SNR
>> increases.
>> >
>> > -/-
>> >
>> > The second innovation is compression of the 700C/D/E waveforms, to
>> increase average power significantly.
>> >
>> > Please be careful adjusting the Tx drive and especially enabling the
>> Tool - Options - Clipping. It can drive your PA quite hard.  I have managed
>> 40W RMS out of my 75W PEP transmitter.  Make sure your transmitter can
>> handle long periods of high average power. My IC7200 and
>> > FT-817 seem OK.
>> >
>> > At the same equivalent peak power - 700D is doing well when compressed
>> SSB is -5dB SNR and rather hard on the ears.
>> >
>> > -/-
>> >
>> > Peter VK3RV, Jose LU5DKI, and Barry VK3BRT tried 1.5.0 last night and
>> report it works on real HF channels.
>> > The latest manual describes the new features:
>> >
>> >
>> https://github.com/drowe67/freedv-gui/blob/118cb66ee4679518185db871ec0ae68071c406a4/USER_MANUAL.md
>> >
>> > You can download Windows 32 and 64 bit versions of FreeDV 1.5 here:
>> >
>> > http://rowetel.com/downloads/freedv
>> >
>> > -/-
>> >
>> > I'd be interested in any feedback.  If you have an interesting test
>> case (e.g. a bug or comparing SSB to FreeDV), pls send me off air
>> recordings of signals (FreeDV Tools-Record File from Radio). That helps me
>> make objective comparisons.  Recordings are much more useful to me than
>> anecdotes or subjective reports.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > David
>> >
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