On my Hermes Lite 2 + Hardrock-50, the latter was claiming 40 watts on 700E
without touching any settings in the app. Will need to play more to see how
far it can be taken.

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 7:22 PM David Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Walter and Mooneer.  I'd be interested to know the RMS power you
> can develop with 700D/E with the clipper option.
>
> - David
> On 20/12/20 10:30 am, Mooneer Salem wrote:
>
> Looks like it's working reasonably well, though the 20 meter band fell out
> shortly after we all got it installed. More testing tomorrow for sure. :)
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
>
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:26 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Have it loaded and running now.
>>
>> Working on a couple others as I type to get some end to end testing.
>>
>> Many thanks David, and best of the holidays.
>>
>>
>> Walter/K5WH
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Rowe <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:34 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 1.5 - 700E and OFDM compression
>>
>> I've been working on a new FreeDV 700E mode, and some compression for
>> FreeDV 700D and 700E to increase the average power.  A Christmas present
>> for you to play with
>>
>> 700E is designed to handle fast fading like 700C, but like 700D has
>> powerful FEC. My bench tests indicate 700C & E are equivalent on moderate
>> fading channels (2Hz dopdler/2ms spread), but on very fast fading (4Hz/4ms)
>> 700E does better - 700C & D fall over. 700D works better at lower SNRs on
>> slow fading channels.
>>
>> I've also been testing against compressed SSB, which as Helmut suggests
>> is pretty hard to beat, as it's so robust to fading. However 700E is
>> hanging on quite well with fast fading, and becomes noise free as the SNR
>> increases.
>>
>> -/-
>>
>> The second innovation is compression of the 700C/D/E waveforms, to
>> increase average power significantly.
>>
>> Please be careful adjusting the Tx drive and especially enabling the Tool
>> - Options - Clipping. It can drive your PA quite hard.  I have managed 40W
>> RMS out of my 75W PEP transmitter.  Make sure your transmitter can handle
>> long periods of high average power. My IC7200 and
>> FT-817 seem OK.
>>
>> At the same equivalent peak power - 700D is doing well when compressed
>> SSB is -5dB SNR and rather hard on the ears.
>>
>> -/-
>>
>> Peter VK3RV, Jose LU5DKI, and Barry VK3BRT tried 1.5.0 last night and
>> report it works on real HF channels.
>> The latest manual describes the new features:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/drowe67/freedv-gui/blob/118cb66ee4679518185db871ec0ae68071c406a4/USER_MANUAL.md
>>
>>
>> You can download Windows 32 and 64 bit versions of FreeDV 1.5 here:
>>
>> http://rowetel.com/downloads/freedv
>>
>> -/-
>>
>> I'd be interested in any feedback.  If you have an interesting test case
>> (e.g. a bug or comparing SSB to FreeDV), pls send me off air recordings of
>> signals (FreeDV Tools-Record File from Radio). That helps me make objective
>> comparisons.  Recordings are much more useful to me than anecdotes or
>> subjective reports.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
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