Glen,

It is if you are my shill, sitting out there in the audience amongst all the
rubes.

See my post immediately following...

--Doug

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:08 PM, glen e. p. ropella
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> Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10/31/2008 04:48 PM:
> > The reality is that as long as people feel the need to use religion hide
> > from reality, to use ritual and dogma to avoid having to think for
> > themselves, there will be fundamentalist religions
>
> Excellent!  Now we may get closer to the truth.  Humans (and their
> psychological, biological, sociological, etc. constitution) _causes_
> fundamentalist religions, not vice versa.  (though there will obviously
> be reinforcing global forces when fundamentalism is the dominant context
> that feed back onto the causes, but fundamentalism re-emerges so often
> that I'd claim the feedback is weaker than the first order causes)
>
> Now that we have the directionality of that causal relationship
> straight, we can begin talking about the constitution of humans, i.e.
> the causes, rather than religion, which is merely the symptom.
>
> What is it about humans and their context that gives rise to the need
> for habit, ritual, dogma, "instinct", and un/subconscious
> stimulus-reaction processes?  And when do things like habit prove
> beneficial versus detrimental?
>
> It's quite clear that when, say, riding a bicycle or hitting a baseball,
> ritual and habit reign.  But when, say, voting or playing Go, it's
> better to spend a large amount of time thinking.  Mixed circumstances,
> e.g. wielding an automatic rifle in the middle of Iraq, will obviously
> present a complex problem that has to be solved with part habit and part
> thought.
>
> Are there any generic (abstracted) properties of circumstances where
> habit is clearly best ... or where in-depth analysis is clearly best?
>
> --
> glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com
>
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