Josh, Google groups mangles attachments? Tell me a little more about that.
As for the rest, I think google groups has real promise. The help mechanism is a little disconcerting, but it has a lot of the look and feel of BlackBoard and even has wiki=like features and versioning. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: Joshua Thorp <jth...@redfish.com> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > Date: 2/10/2010 8:28:36 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives > > > The android phone doesn't make the list? > Owen's point is taken about the lack of total integration. Apple would never let that happen to their products. Android does have a good set of integrations and some glaring omissions like read only integration with google docs. It is a good test of your google ecology purity to sign on to an android phone and see your google persona inhabit it. > > I use: > > GMail: more so since I got the phone... not my primary email > Google Calendar: yes > Google Maps: yes > GoogleEarth: yes -- mostly as a wonderful globe (can you imagine the value of that?) but with mashup data the potential is very intersting. Here is an interesting mashup: http://aprs.fi/ > Google Translate: never, but I bet google does it fairly well. > Google Youtube: of course. > Google Chrome browser: yes. its not my primary browser because I like firefox's plugins. But I have nothing against it. > Blogspot.com: yes, but only as a consumer. > Google Docs: Yes, and they have some real power in their ability to make web forms that populate data in a spreadsheet. Part of the google ecology is waiting for users to find new creative ways to wire the thing up. > Google Images: some. > Google News: yes, and I mostly don't click through. Take that new york times... > Google Shopping: what? never. > Google Books: a handful of times. Who has the time to read anymore? > Google Scholar: rarely see books. > Google Patents: never > Google Sketchup: once--but it was fun. > Google Adsense: I've known those who do. > Google Picassa: yes. And I am seriously thinking of going from iPhoto to picassa. > Google Talk: seldom. > Google Chrome OS: It hardly exists at this point. > Google App Engine: Some. I like the idea of a painless build your own web application platform. And the google integration here gives you a whole crowd of people who can just sign onto your site as if they already belonged there through Google Accounts. > Google Accounts: yes. Google needs to be working on joining (merging) accounts otherwise confusion ensues. > Google Maps API: haven't. > Google Data API: haven't. > Google Apps: haven't but may soon. > Google Groups: mangles attachments. > Google Code: as a consumer. > Google Wave: looks like a splash. > Google Finance: no. > Android: brings them together. > > > But really I'm not sure that I want to see Google be more successful. Total integration could turn into a walled garden that stifles innovation. I think one interesting thing is how willing google has been to fail and as they do over and over again I am sure what remains will be powerful. > > Re: walled garden another google product: > http://www.dataliberation.org/ > > > --joshua > > GMail: > Google Calendar: > Google Maps: > GoogleEarth: > Google Translate: > Google Youtube: > Google Chrome browser: > Blogspot.com: > Google Docs: > Google Images: > Google News: > Google Shopping: > Google Books: > Google Scholar: > Google Patents: > Google Sketchup: > Google Adsense: > Google Picassa: > Google Talk: > Google Chrome OS: > Google App Engine: > Google Accounts: > Google Maps API: > Google Data API: > Google Apps: > Google Groups: > Google Code: > Google Wave: > Google Finance: > > > > Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail > > > GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. > > Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > > Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > > GoogleEarth: Often. > > Google Translate: Occasionally > > Google Youtube: Rarely. > > Google Chrome browser: No. > > Blogspot.com: Often. > > Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > > Google Images: Often > > Google News: Some > > Google Shopping: Some > > Google Books: Some > > Google Scholar: Some > > Google Patents: Some > > Google Sketchup: Some > > Google Adsense: Never > > Google Picassa: Rarely. > > Google Talk: Rarely. > > Google Chrome OS: No. > > Google App Engine: Barely. > > Google Maps API: Once. > > Google Data API: No but I want to. > > Google Apps: Not > > Google Groups: Some. > > Google Code: Only to download. > > Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > > Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. > > On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > Scary how much I live in the Google ecology. I don't use it in a very integrated way either. But then beyond cut/paste what is there and what do I need? Wave promises to change that... but I don't get it yet. > > > > Me: > > > > Search: Always > > GMail: Only for boutique address purposes. Google Login allows you to use your own e-mail (not-Gmail). > > Google Calendar: Yes, most excellent. > > Google Maps: Almost exclusively. > > GoogleEarth: Often. > > Google Translate: Occasionally > > Google Youtube: Rarely. > > Google Chrome browser: No. > > Blogspot.com: Often. > > Google Docs: Moderately, mostly for sharing, not for viewing. > > Google Images: Often > > Google News: Some > > Google Shopping: Some > > Google Books: Some > > Google Scholar: Some > > Google Patents: Some > > Google Sketchup: Some > > Google Adsense: Never > > Google Picassa: Rarely. > > Google Talk: Rarely. > > Google Chrome OS: No. > > Google App Engine: Barely. > > Google Maps API: Once. > > Google Data API: No but I want to. > > Google Apps: Not > > Google Groups: Some. > > Google Code: Only to download. > > Google Wave: Still waiting for it to break. > > Google Finance: I use it to play on paper, learn how the markets work, motivate me to pay attention to tech/business trends. > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
