Ok, so I fibbed a little bit when I indicated that I was done ranting about
this issue.

There actually is a complex social network component to the whole episode.
 I just did a quick back-of-the-envelop addition:  during the past 18 hours,
approx 500,000 individuals were exposed to the article that I wrote about
the Newegg interaction.  Contact was made via a combination of Facebook,
mailing lists, and the Linux Today online publication.  Newegg's Facebook
page alone has 249,512 fans subscribed to it.

Information flows faster these days than it used to, if you want it to.

--Doug

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:

>  glen e. p. ropella wrote:
>
> Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10-02-19 10:42 AM:
>
>
>  Chill, dude.  You're destroying the karma of the list.
> As well as wasting my time.
>
>
>  I thought *this* was the karma of the list!
>
> I see Glen becoming as righteously indignant about Doug's rant as Doug is
> about NewEgg's shortcomings.
>
> All's well that ends well.
>
> Doug now has (a verbal promise of?) financial satisfaction, including a
> gift certificate from NewEgg worth about 35 minutes of his time <grin>.
>
> Time to replace that $399 refurb laptop with a $549 new one with it's video
> camera installed right-side up?
>
> If only Pete Nanos had had the foresight to apologize to Doug and give him
> a $150 certificate for Nambe Ware 5 years ago.
>
> - Steve
>
>  Heh, that's rich.  You regularly point out flaws in others' reasoning
> and generally poo-poo many of the more interesting ideas on this list.
> Then when someone (jokingly, even) challenges you, you resort to
> "destroying the karma" and "wasting my time"?  Where I come from we call
> people like you "glass cannons".  You hit really hard but shatter at the
> slightest return blow.
>
> C'est la vie.  [sigh]
>
>
>
>
>  Re: The complexity tie-in -- it's complicated, but I don't have time to go
> into it right now.  I'll get back to you on that.  In the mean time,
> consider the complex social dynamics, as they interact, interface, and
> propagate in todays' complex socio-economic grid, vis a vis the 500,000+
> person-agents who have been made aware of a bad actor in the transactional
> mix via the attractor of social networking propagation paths (cyclic, as
> well as acyclic), all a mere 18 hours after the perceived bad transaction
> was detected.
>
>
>  Nonsense.  I have no issue with Newegg.  I do have issues with people
> who buy a product before researching it, then when they have a problem,
> blame others for that problem... and THEN when things don't go their
> way, throw a hissy fit and waste everyone's time complaining.  As
> pointed out by Steve, Newegg is no different from any other corporation.
>  Yes, corporations aggregate human traits.  They aggregate stupidity as
> well as other things more positive like successfully serving YOUR needs
> for many years.  Your rantings come off as precisely what they are, the
> rantings of an angry person who needs to step back and consider the
> bigger picture... and perhaps come up with practical solutions to the
> cause rather than myopic band-aids for the symptom.
>
>
>
>
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