Jihad Doug -

I am sympathetic to your plight and I wish you well on your Jihad.   Until it plays out a little further, I will assume "NewEgg is a BadEgg".

That said, I have a few observations:
  1. Bargains usually aren't.   This trips me every time I find/seek/indulge-in one.  I think it is a feature of our "free market" that someone is always waiting to slip us a mickey of some kind (at a discount of course).  This is the reason I don't trust refurbed equipment... not because I "deserve" new or fear that they did a bad job on the refurb, but rather that there might be a taste of lemon in the product that is below some threshold (but above mine).
  2. I have seen others who have used the mouthpiece of our emergent "citizen-media" to take on big corps in similar situations.   I only have point-samples in the distribution which seems to range from those who merely embarrass themselves to those who have an effect not unlike winning a class-action suit.   On face value, your "case" sounds mostly solid but probably lies somewhere in between.   This one poorly handled product is not enough to blemish them much by itself.  If there is a pattern to selling lemon-scented products, maybe this will be the one that takes them down.
  3. I'm glad to hear NewEgg has come through for you for many years... that alone is amazing.   I have little reason to expect them to be this good in the first place, much less remain so.   It seems to be the nature of fictitious people (corporations) to develop credibility (or not) to a certain point and then spend a long period on "profit taking".   The turning point is often a change in ownership or management.   The point is that if NewEgg has gone from credibility-building to profit-taking, your voice will be lost in the hubbub of all the other disgruntled customers they might very well be generating right now.
  4. There is great satisfaction to be had in "vengeance", even though it usually costs the "avenger" more to get it than the magnitude of the original harm.
  5. I hope NewEgg is merely having a bad moment and that some (human) will field your complaints/warnings and "do the right thing".   Your "expose" was well enough worded and polite that I think it is a service to the community.  Even if NewEgg comes through in short order, the "Caveat Emptor" suggested at several levels will be useful to many.

Per Nick's comments... I doubt NewEgg would respond with any legal action.  I believe you are not being either slanderous or libelous, merely contentious.

We'll be waiting with 'bated breath as the saga unfolds.   Meanwhile don't fly any planes into the NewEgg corporate HQ without consulting me...  I have some alternatives you might consider.

- Steve
All,
 
I have occasionally been of the mind to take this sort of revenge on a corporation, but don't have the technical know how (or the--um --guts)  to do so.  But that hasn't kept me from worrying about the consequences of acting with explicit MALICE against any organization with lawyers. 
 
Is there a hazard here?  Should Doug be putting all his assets into an irrevocable trust for his parrots before he takes on newegg? 
 
Just wondering.
 
Nick
 
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu)
http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 2/18/2010 4:56:57 PM
Subject: [FRIAM] War has been declared

Dear fellow FRIAMers,

Please enjoy the opportunity to be the first audience to observe the opening salvo in my newly-declared war on Newegg.com.  I just got off the phone with their Customer Service Department, after having sent then a courtesy advance copy of the short article included below.  I wanted to give them one last chance to correct what I believe will be a much larger mistake than they might have anticipated.  Next stop Slashdot, then Linux Today, then CNET, Wired.com if they will have it as an editorial.  Linux Journal, Linux Journal (Facebook).  I'll become a fan & write on their wall for all 6,384 other fans to read. Linux Magazine Online, Linux Online, Linux Magazine (different from Linux Magazine Online), etc.

This might surprise some of you, but I can become a large pain in the ass when I get pissed off.

And I am pissed off.

--Doug

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I admit it up front.  I want to take $399 out of the hide of Newegg.com.  Here's why:

I purchased a refurbished Asus  K50 Series K50IJ-RX05 laptop from Newegg 4 weeks ago, for -- you guessed it -- $399.  The laptop arrived three days later, and I installed Kubuntu 9.10 on it.  No muss, no fuss, no hitches.  Everything worked, right out of the box:  wireless, graphics, the whole shebang.

Well, apparently everything worked.  The laptop was a birthday present for my wife, you see.  So the first thing she asked for was for me to install Skype on it so she could make video calls to her daughter.  

No problem, says I.  Presto, Skype got installed.  Oops, the picture is upside down.  This laptop was manufactured/assembled with the webcam installed 180 degrees out of whack!

Well, ok.  I guess.  There's a Video For Linux patch just for this situation.  So I installed the patch (a library to pre-load prior to running apps that use webcam).  Alrighty,  the webcam video is no longer upside down in Skype.  I handed the laptop back to my wife.

Day two:  the wife says, "My laptop locked up."  I asked her what she had been doing at the time.  "Moving the mouse."

Oh, oh, this isn't right.  The Asus K50 is running an Intel T4200 dual-core processor and the Intel 4500 graphics chipset.  The Linux Intel graphics drivers are pretty solid.  In fact, I've installed Kubuntu 9.10 on several nearly identical Acer T4200 laptops with the 4500 chipset, and they are all rock solid under some pretty heavy-duty use.

So, I installed the very latest Kubuntu update, which brought the kernel and modules up to version 2.6.31-19, and handed the laptop back to my wife.  Again.

No go.  Three - four times a day the machine just locked up.  Randomly.  Hard.  Power cycle required to reboot.

So now I go to the intertubes to do some research (I know, I know) and discover [careful, big surprise coming] that the Asus K50 Series K50IJ-RX05 machines had the webcam installed upside down at the factory.  Oh, and they randomly lock up several times a day.  Linux, Vista, XP.  Whatever.  They lock up.  There's a reason that so many "refurbished" units of this model are up for sale.

Clearly an unsatisfactory situation. So I contacted Newegg and explained that I was unhappy with the defective laptop they had sold me.  After a brief consultation with her supervisor, the nice lady approved my RMA refund request and sent me a free UPS return label for me to use to ship the laptop back.

Not to shabby, I thought.  This kind of service is why I have been a good Newegg customer for the past 7 years.  Spending about $2,000 - $3,000 per year.  For seven years.  At Newegg.

Oops, not so fast.  [I bet some of you saw this coming.]  See the email I just received from Newegg:


Dear Valued Customer,

Thanks again for shopping at Newegg.com.

We recently received your RMA and your return was then sent to our Inspections Department for closer examination.

Incomplete return
User changed OS to Linux Kubuntu
System has been modified/altered original manufacturers operating system has been removed cannot access restore partition, this voids Newegg warranty. Unit cannot be accepted or resold as received.

RMA denied return to customer

Because Newegg would be facing a loss if we were to replace this item, we are returning the product to you and recommending that you contact the manufacturer directly to request that they repair or replace the item under your manufacturer's warranty.  Please visit the following link to view a listing of all the manufacturers whose products we carry: http://www.newegg.com/app/contactmanufacturer.asp?DEPA=0

Kindest regards,

Newegg.com
RMA Inspections Department

This email was sent from Newegg's Automated Email System so please do not reply.


That's right:  I installed Linux on the laptop, and therefore Newegg is not going to honor my refund.

Need I say more?  Newegg is now on record as a vendor from whom you purchase at your own risk.  They have demonstrated that they will knowingly sell defective hardware, and not honor refund requests on same.

A very good way to go out of business, in my opinion.

Buyer beware.
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