But would referees need some incentive to do a good job of reviewing a paper? If we only go by economic motivation, and if our pay goes down the longer we take, why not do a rush job? If reviewers are paid, shouldn't their work be evaluated? Perhaps it is. Editors make note of who does a good review --but we would need formal feedback to the reviewers. Who would review the reviewers' work? ________________________________________ From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of lrudo...@meganet.net [lrudo...@meganet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:07 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Peer review
I am told that in economics these days, some journals do pay referees (which I presume means "peer reviewers") an honorarium that diminishes by some set amount every day from the receipt of the paper (not dipping below $0, though; that *would* get my attention). This might be an Academic Urban Legend, however. And I don't really like to *talk* to economists... it always makes me feel poor, nasty, brutish, and short-tempered. > Russell, > > Money for doing peer reviews!!!!!????? Oh, gosh. If the world were thus! > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf > Of Russell Standish > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 3:31 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: [FRIAM] Peer review > > On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 10:18:26AM -0800, glen e. p. ropella wrote: > > > > On a tangent, however, I found this article interesting: > > > > Citizens Against Peer Review > > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/03/citizens-aga > > inst-peer-review/ > > > > > > But it does bring up the point that we humans do as little work as we > > can get away with. We're lazy. We won't dig into any subject unless > > we must, for whatever reason. The reviewers will dig in deeper than > > the lay person (mostly) because it's their job/profession to do so. > > Oh sure, they may have chosen that job/profession based on some > > inherent energy or curiosity about the domain; but in the end, they > > have groceries to buy on the way home, yards to rake, burnt out light > > bulbs to change, etc. So, they really do have to commit to work like > this. > > > > I weas fine with this, until I got to this bit. No scientist will do peer > review for the sake of paying bills. In fact it seems to be the fashion not > to do any work for peer reviewing, and just make snap judgements, as it > takes you away from the 'real science' (ie writing research grant proposals > to lure the grad students). They'll do it because they're fundamentally > interested in science, and want to give back to the scientific community by > returning the courtesy some other reviewer has given them. But career > scientists don't, so the peer review process is often just a waste of time, > or sometimes even positively catty. Sorry for the snarky comments :(. > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Mathematics > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, > unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
