On 05/08/2013 10:31 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
> What is a counter example of non-homogenization of culture?

I think homogenization of (or homogenized state of) culture can take
different forms. Were it normal, it could be fatter or skinnier.  If
it's skewed/biased (which is most likely) it can be skewed more or less.
 These "parameters" for whatever distribution exist would (were we to
measure samples) provide counter examples.  Higher sigma and fatter
tails would indicate "less homogenous".

> It seems
> to suggest that culture is a thing that leads individuals, rather than
> individuals leading it.

If we consider the whole, high dimensional space, I posit that the
reality contains multiple feedback loops.  I.e. culture leads
individuals and vice versa.  Whether the causal flows happen more in one
or the other direction probably depends on which variable is being
examined.  For example, it seems to me that I see 2 opposing causal
flows in music.  One is that in pop music, culture leads individuals.
But in folk or jazz or any live-music oriented domain, it strikes me
that individuals (or individual bands) lead culture.

> If anything, the problem in the U.S. is that people think their problems
> are unique and that their clan is special.   So, we fail to factor out
> the common bits of everyday life into shared systems like mass
> transport, affordable housing, health care, etc.
> 
> There's something to be said for put up or shut up.  Prove you're
> special.  Oh, so you're not, here's a nice television for you to watch.

This pressure is good, despite the risks of narcissism or sanctimony to
any particular individual.  It's difficult for me to imagine an
individual performing at their maximum if they spend all their time in
the middle of the biggest cluster of individuals.  But I still reject
the idea that any particular individual is somehow _not_ special.  I
remember a distinction made at one of the computing and philosophy
conferences i attended referring to the difference between the "special"
sciences and the "general" sciences.  That is one of the reasons I think
biology is interesting.  I think it sits right on the line.  It's a
special science, but seems to be poised to reveal some more generic
"laws" any decade now.

-- 
glen  =><= Hail Eris!

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