Who'd'a thought the initial post would make such an interesting
conversation!  Love it.

   -- Owen


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:

>  Marcus -
>
> My father, for better or worse, wanted/needed huge swaths of well traveled
> territory to learn within.  He went from Boy Scouts to Navy to College to
> Civil Service, wearing uniforms much of that time, and learning (by rote)
> the many standard forms they presented.  It made him feel safe, it let him
> be useful/performing in places he otherwise might not have.
>
> Somehow that sent me in an opposite direction, appreciating the core
> tools, formalisms, methodologies not as an end, but as a means or more to
> the point, a beginning, a point of departure.
>
> As I matured, I *did* discover that I was in fact often/usually
> (re)inventing as I went and as you so aptly point out, I'm thankful for
> having done so... the things I was "given" were never mine in the way the
> things I "created" or "discovered" were.  We are a curious species and
> maintaining/feeding that curiosity seems to be an important part of our
> nature.
>
> I would say my father's curiosity was limited to exploring a vast
> landscape of things already laid out for him while mine was to blunder
> around in wildernesses often of my own making, only to discover that I was
> actually inside of a park so well groomed that at times it felt to be a
> wilderness...  early on, I resented discovering that my "inventions" were
> really "re-discoveries" but at some point, I began to appreciate that with
> some of them I was adding valuable nuances too.
>
>  So rather than "knowing the names of the turtles all the way down", I got
> to/had to make up names for them as I met them, and only later discover
> that they had been named many times already.
>
> It seems to me the folks that are given the names don't value the names.
> Clearly there is value in standard language for technical communication,
> but harder for me to imagine being taught something but otherwise having no
> intuition for it.  I guess that's what many people expect, though?
>
> Marcus
>
>
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