I'd (probably wrongly) interpreted Marcus' comment to mean something about 
keeping the corporate drones (who can't imagine doing work for anything other 
than incentive) away from people who have the knowledge to create weapons of 
mass destruction, particularly biological weapons ... hence, the article about 
DIYBio myths.  It was a little bit of agreement with a little bit of 
disagreement combined.


BTW-FWIW, since we're talking about motivation vs. incentive, I just saw this 
in my inbox:

  The Ethics of Whistleblowing with Edward Snowden
  http://www.philosophytalk.org/shows/ethics-whistleblowing-edward-snowden

John: A lot of people see you as a hero.  But others, intelligent ones too, 
have called you a narcissistic traitor ... How do you see yourself at this 
point?

Snowden: I don't think about myself.  I don't think about how I'm going to be 
perceived, because it's not about me.  It's about us.

This is the type of thing that makes me think Snowden is, at least, disingenuous, if not 
worse.  He's clearly not afflicted with any of the major psych disorders that prevent him 
from reflective thought.  Hence, he _does_ think about himself and how he'll be 
perceived.  If he'd just answer the damned question honestly ... like "Hell yeah, I 
think about myself and how I'm perceived!  I think about how my fellow US citizens view 
me.  I think about how/whether they want to know the information I leaked, whether a jury 
of my peers would convict me if presented with the evidence ... " Etc.  If he'd 
answer that way, I might start to trust him.  Instead he answers with this 
pseudo-altrustic nonsense, public-relations/politician-speak.  Ugh.



On 07/14/2015 04:43 PM, Parks, Raymond wrote:
So, I'm not getting the relevance of the DIYBio movement to Marcus' comment.  
Are you suggesting that it is an example of community for community's sake?

On Jul 14, 2015, at 4:15 PM, glen wrote:

On 07/14/2015 02:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Sometimes I think circles such as yours and the people Glen is talking about 
just must be kept apart from one another, if they don’t avoid each other 
naturally.    That’s about as close I get to advocating community for 
community’s sake.

http://phys.org/news/2013-11-first-ever-survey-do-it-yourself-biology-myths.html


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⇔ glen

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