Dammit, Nick. I can and frequently do spend hours planning, remembering, composing emails, fantasizing about my next car, etc without exhibiting any remarkable behavior beyond eyeblinking, touching my face (don't!), crossing and uncrossing my legs. We've been through this before but what is my latest plan about what to do when my auto lease is up? No one knows but me despite your claim that I don't have private access to these kinds of things.
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:36 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi,Glen, > > Careful. Isn't the formulation "inner world" entirely contradictory? > > N > > Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ? > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:50 PM > To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve > > However, I think we can come up with a (maybe someday) testable hypothesis > based on hidden states. In principle, if EricC's principle is taken > seriously, the inner world of a black box device will be *completely* > represented on its surface (ala the holographic principle). Any information > not exhibited by a black box's *behavior* will be lost/random. > > This implies something about the compressibility and information content > of the black box's behavior, right? > > On 5/5/20 10:38 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > This does not advance an argument against the possibility of a computer > thinking — merely an assertion that "behavior" is not a valid basis upon > which to argue that they do. > > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918
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