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-- rec -- On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:08 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: > Oh, you SAY you do. Someday we’ll get Neuralink hardware on you and then > WE WILL SEE. > > > > *From: *Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Frank Wimberly < > wimber...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:04 PM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve > > > > Dammit, Nick. I can and frequently do spend hours planning, remembering, > composing emails, fantasizing about my next car, etc without exhibiting > any remarkable behavior beyond eyeblinking, touching my face (don't!), > crossing and uncrossing my legs. We've been through this before but what > is my latest plan about what to do when my auto lease is up? No one knows > but me despite your claim that I don't have private access to these kinds > of things. > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:36 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi,Glen, > > Careful. Isn't the formulation "inner world" entirely contradictory? > > N > > Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ? > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:50 PM > To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve > > However, I think we can come up with a (maybe someday) testable hypothesis > based on hidden states. In principle, if EricC's principle is taken > seriously, the inner world of a black box device will be *completely* > represented on its surface (ala the holographic principle). Any information > not exhibited by a black box's *behavior* will be lost/random. > > This implies something about the compressibility and information content > of the black box's behavior, right? > > On 5/5/20 10:38 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > This does not advance an argument against the possibility of a computer > thinking — merely an assertion that "behavior" is not a valid basis upon > which to argue that they do. > > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > > > -- > > Frank Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > 505 670-9918 > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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