So there’s a rather concrete way in which one can imagine ChatGPT’s being 
particularly useful as a time-saver.

I have heard it said (and find it persuasive), that philosophy is different 
from physics because what philosophers want to do and settle for being is 
different from that for physicists.

A physicist can pick up F = ma and start from there to get something done.

Each philosopher is, in a sense, a new beginning of the universe, and you are 
expected to read thousands of pages of his composition to be permitted to 
engage with him. That is a good barrier to exclude pretty-much-everbody from 
most conversations.

But there are specific topics on which engaging with this group is a game of 
whack-a-mole, and it would be _so_ satisfying to catch that damned mole far 
enough out of the hole to pin him down to the board for once.

It is on this point:  

Summarizing what, as Marcus rightly says, as been repeated 10^n times before, 
CGTP quotes:
At the core of radical empiricism is the concept of "pure experience." 
According to James, pure experience refers to the immediate, unmediated 
apprehension of reality, devoid of any conceptual or interpretative filters. It 
involves experiencing the world as it is, without imposing preconceived notions 
or theories onto the experience.

What the HELL does anyone think this is supposed to refer to?  I am not asking 
whether it actually does refer to anything, but rather what anyone believes he 
is saying by it.

And I can ask that in a rather concrete way.  Were James to engage with 
Husserl, would he claim that the access to the “immediate apprehension” is by 
way of the same portal as Husserl’s epoche? 

I ask because they set themselves up to make a particular style of assertion.  

By analogy, we have seen that human bodies can do things like Amanars and any 
of the 4 Bileses (which should have been 5, and would have been were it not for 
COVID).  But that doesn’t mean every human body can do any of them.  There is 
rather a lot of specific training that goes into becoming one of the bodies 
that can do any of this.

The various “internal” experience-focused philosophers present these things as 
doable, but technical and particular and requiring training.

But if you then ask what that is about, you get either a demand to follow 
several thousand pages in each person’s formulation, or the kind of cloudy 
motivational life-coach speech that almost all of the CGPT summary is composed 
of.  (Reminds me of something I once heard said of chimp speech: if you aren’t 
there working with them, you cannot anticipate how mind-numbingly repetitive it 
is).  

So rather than asking “what it is” (the skill or whatever), I can ask “If they 
were arguing with each other, would they even assert to each other, each with 
his supposed privileged appreciation of the mysteries, assert or deny that they 
are referring to the same thing.

This might allow us to not have to approach the full body of philosophical 
literature as if each corpus were Sui generis.  

Eric





> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:43 AM, Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote:
> 
> ChatGPT now allows sharing conversations. I've asked it about William James 
> book "Essays in Radical Empiricism"
> https://chat.openai.com/share/375aef4e-a8d6-467e-8061-bd85b341c46b 
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